Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By ghlabdl Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:39 am
Something was up with my external SCSI zip reader. I naturally went to MPC-Forums for help. Instead of getting down in the dumps, I took the lack of responses as a subversive suggestion to install a zip drive into my MPC all by my purty self!

I was impatient and decided not to wait online for parts. This made the total of my installation efforts a whopping $25. You, with some tools you can borrow or buy and return hastily, can do it for much less if you have slightly more patience than I do.

There weren't any real instructions on how to do it, just many separate pieces of advice that were taken out of context. So if anyone wants to rep the Zip game as opposed to a MMC (which I should've done but fugget), here ya go:


Ingredients:
Iomega z250ATAPI - 250mb Internal Zip drive - $10 - ebay
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40 pin IDE ribbon (NOT 39) - $3 - ebay
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4-Pin Molex connector - $2* - ebay
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*if you have an old PC computer that you don't use, you can rip a nice, long Molex connector w/ it's wires out and use it with some snipping of unnecessary stuff

Tools:
Soldering iron
Solder
Scissors
Exacto knife/razor/knife[/b]

Installation Instructions:
1. Find a pillow, blanket or nice soft surface to lay down on a table. You will lay your MPC upside down onto this soft surface so you can work, and so you don't possibly wreck yr slider and data wheel controls.

2. Unfasten all screws from the bottom. Be careful not to lose any.

3. Remove the floppy drive. Unplug the floppy power cable (or a JST-4) from the MPC motherboard. Next, you unplug the 34-pin Floppy connector from the motherboard. You will most likely need to CAREFULLY cut either the ziptie holding all these wires together, or the wires themselves, to safely remove the floppy drive from your MPC. Once this is done, you can unplug with 34-pin connector from the motherboard by pushing down gently on the side holders to unleash it. The floppy drive should no longer connected to the MPC.

4. Solder JST-connector wires to Molex cables. The JST>Molex connection powers your zip drive to gobble up and vomit out your zip disks. Cut the yellow and black wires from your Molex connector, you won't need them. Be sure to measure a close, close estimate of what your soldering JST>Molex power cables will be. No rulers or bullihst needed, but you don't want it to come out too short or you won't be able to connect it from the motherboard to the distanced male Molex connection from your zip drive later on. And you'll look like an idiot having to solder even more cables together to extend it later on. And your girlfriend will leave you for your best friend because you're taking too long to install a fkcuing zip drive. And you're family will be disappointed in you for making a small DIY task even more difficult. Or, maybe not.

Solder the black JST cable to the black Molex cable, and solder the red JST cable to the Molex cable.

5. Grab your 40-pin IDE ribbon. The 40-pin is what makes your MPC recognize, use and abuse the zip drive. Measure it with your zip drive inside the MPC to see how much, if at all, you'll need to fold up that bad boi so it's not spread out all over the guts of yr MPC like a delicious blend of herbs, garlic and goat cheese. Fold that xit up and connect the MASTER side of the IDE cable to the zip drive. (You'll be able to tell what the MASTER side is by either a clearly written declaration or a coloration of the connector. Mine was a cold dead blue, like my gf's heart.)

6. Set the jumper on your zip drive to MASTER. This is crucial--if you don't do this, your MPC won't recognize the ATAPI device that will clearly be plugged into it and you might explode into a violent rage.

7. Connect the zip drive to your MPC's mamaboard. It's probably best to secure your JST>Molex connection first, but whatever is easiest for you the better. Connect the JST>Molex and the 40-pin IDE ribbon running from your zip drive into the MPC motherboard's ATAPI port (right next to the JST port).

8. Carefully test the zip drive's power and MPC's ATAPI recognition of your drive. Don't screw all that crap in just yet. Place the bottom cover over that internal mess so no dust creeps in, however. Turn on the MPC and take notice of two things:
- Whatever power-indicator of your zip drive lights on when the MPC powers on. This signifies that your zip drive is properly connected to power, and that your slavish soldering work was not in vain.
- Hit up the LOAD screen (SHIFT+3--cmon, dawg) and see if it recognizes your zip as an ATAPI device. It'll replace the FLOPPY option. If it does--AWESOME, meet me at step #9, bruh.
(If it doesn't recognize it you may have fkuced up with either correctly assigning the ends of your 40-pin ribbon where they belong or you haven't set the jumper of your zip drive to master.)

9. Screw the bottom panel back on. Before doing this, screw in the placeholder (or w/e) connecting that slab of metal you knicked off that floppy to the zip drive. It'll be hell to do this if you save it for later once you've already screwed on the bottom pannel.

10. Put in an empty zip disk into the zip drive. Power up your MPC and format your Zip drive and party hard.

Hit up this thread for any questions! I hope this was clear.
By renkas Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:13 pm
Thank you for your instruction.
My zip doesn't work. I connected the ide cable according to the "cable key". But Ive heard something about flipping the cables. Mine ide cable didn't have master side. Mpc recognizes atapi but always says the drive is not ready.
What did I do wrong?
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By LVIII Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:53 am
This thread's a couple of years old now, but I was just wondering about soldering those 2 cables together. I'm not entirely clear on how this process works. I've done basic soldering of XLR/1/4" jack leads, but not computer leads like those found here. Seems reasonably straight-forward, but if anyone has a picture of this converted JST/Molex cable, then please - post!

Also wondering if as opposed to clipping/soldering these two different cord types it might be possible to use an FST/Molex conversion cable? I've found a couple online but the JST 4 pin connector is in a 2x2 array as opposed to a 1x4 array....

Otherwise this is probably the strongest lead I've found on doing this installation.
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By SimonInAustralia Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:47 am
LVIII wrote:I was just wondering about soldering those 2 cables together. I'm not entirely clear on how this process works. I've done basic soldering of XLR/1/4" jack leads, but not computer leads like those found here. Seems reasonably straight-forward, but if anyone has a picture of this converted JST/Molex cable, then please - post!

You cut the ends that you don't want off of your cables, and solder the wires on one cable to the wires on the other cable, so that you get the correct connections (5V/ground/ground/12V) through to the Molex plug.

Where you cut the wires, you strip off approximately 1cm of insulation off of the ends of all the wires that you want to join together, then twist each wire on one cable to the matching wire on the other cable, solder each join, cover the joins well with electrical tape/heat-shrink tube/etc. to stop it shorting out on the insides of the MPC and with the other wires in the cable.


LVIII wrote:Also wondering if as opposed to clipping/soldering these two different cord types it might be possible to use an FST/Molex conversion cable? I've found a couple online but the JST 4 pin connector is in a 2x2 array as opposed to a 1x4 array....

It has to be 1x4, that is what the male socket on the PCB is, you need the plug to match the socket.

I have not been able to find any JST EH to Molex cables, other than this one that was on eBay for a while...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151310923180

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You can find floppy to Molex adapters, with a male floppy plug to connect to your existing MPC floppy power cable, but there do not seem to be many available...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151355345991

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By 2finger Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:16 am
renkas wrote:Thank you for your instruction.
My zip doesn't work. I connected the ide cable according to the "cable key". But Ive heard something about flipping the cables. Mine ide cable didn't have master side. Mpc recognizes atapi but always says the drive is not ready.
What did I do wrong?


i have the same fuc%/&# problem, Mpc recognizes atapi but always says the drive is not ready.

some recomendation?
By SOL Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:09 am
ghlabdl wrote:Something was up with my external SCSI zip reader. I naturally went to MPC-Forums for help. Instead of getting down in the dumps, I took the lack of responses as a subversive suggestion to install a zip drive into my MPC all by my purty self!

I was impatient and decided not to wait online for parts. This made the total of my installation efforts a whopping $25. You, with some tools you can borrow or buy and return hastily, can do it for much less if you have slightly more patience than I do.

There weren't any real instructions on how to do it, just many separate pieces of advice that were taken out of context. So if anyone wants to rep the Zip game as opposed to a MMC (which I should've done but fugget), here ya go:


Ingredients:
Iomega z250ATAPI - 250mb Internal Zip drive - $10 - ebay
Image

40 pin IDE ribbon (NOT 39) - $3 - ebay
Image

4-Pin Molex connector - $2* - ebay
Image
*if you have an old PC computer that you don't use, you can rip a nice, long Molex connector w/ it's wires out and use it with some snipping of unnecessary stuff

Tools:
Soldering iron
Solder
Scissors
Exacto knife/razor/knife[/b]

Installation Instructions:
1. Find a pillow, blanket or nice soft surface to lay down on a table. You will lay your MPC upside down onto this soft surface so you can work, and so you don't possibly wreck yr slider and data wheel controls.

2. Unfasten all screws from the bottom. Be careful not to lose any.

3. Remove the floppy drive. Unplug the floppy power cable (or a JST-4) from the MPC motherboard. Next, you unplug the 34-pin Floppy connector from the motherboard. You will most likely need to CAREFULLY cut either the ziptie holding all these wires together, or the wires themselves, to safely remove the floppy drive from your MPC. Once this is done, you can unplug with 34-pin connector from the motherboard by pushing down gently on the side holders to unleash it. The floppy drive should no longer connected to the MPC.

4. Solder JST-connector wires to Molex cables. The JST>Molex connection powers your zip drive to gobble up and vomit out your zip disks. Cut the yellow and black wires from your Molex connector, you won't need them. Be sure to measure a close, close estimate of what your soldering JST>Molex power cables will be. No rulers or bullihst needed, but you don't want it to come out too short or you won't be able to connect it from the motherboard to the distanced male Molex connection from your zip drive later on. And you'll look like an idiot having to solder even more cables together to extend it later on. And your girlfriend will leave you for your best friend because you're taking too long to install a fkcuing zip drive. And you're family will be disappointed in you for making a small DIY task even more difficult. Or, maybe not.

Solder the black JST cable to the black Molex cable, and solder the red JST cable to the Molex cable.

5. Grab your 40-pin IDE ribbon. The 40-pin is what makes your MPC recognize, use and abuse the zip drive. Measure it with your zip drive inside the MPC to see how much, if at all, you'll need to fold up that bad boi so it's not spread out all over the guts of yr MPC like a delicious blend of herbs, garlic and goat cheese. Fold that xit up and connect the MASTER side of the IDE cable to the zip drive. (You'll be able to tell what the MASTER side is by either a clearly written declaration or a coloration of the connector. Mine was a cold dead blue, like my gf's heart.)

6. Set the jumper on your zip drive to MASTER. This is crucial--if you don't do this, your MPC won't recognize the ATAPI device that will clearly be plugged into it and you might explode into a violent rage.

7. Connect the zip drive to your MPC's mamaboard. It's probably best to secure your JST>Molex connection first, but whatever is easiest for you the better. Connect the JST>Molex and the 40-pin IDE ribbon running from your zip drive into the MPC motherboard's ATAPI port (right next to the JST port).

8. Carefully test the zip drive's power and MPC's ATAPI recognition of your drive. Don't screw all that **** in just yet. Place the bottom cover over that internal mess so no dust creeps in, however. Turn on the MPC and take notice of two things:
- Whatever power-indicator of your zip drive lights on when the MPC powers on. This signifies that your zip drive is properly connected to power, and that your slavish soldering work was not in vain.
- Hit up the LOAD screen (SHIFT+3--cmon, dawg) and see if it recognizes your zip as an ATAPI device. It'll replace the FLOPPY option. If it does--AWESOME, meet me at step #9, bruh.
(If it doesn't recognize it you may have fkuced up with either correctly assigning the ends of your 40-pin ribbon where they belong or you haven't set the jumper of your zip drive to master.)

9. Screw the bottom panel back on. Before doing this, screw in the placeholder (or w/e) connecting that slab of metal you knicked off that floppy to the zip drive. It'll be hell to do this if you save it for later once you've already screwed on the bottom pannel.

10. Put in an empty zip disk into the zip drive. Power up your MPC and format your Zip drive and party hard.

Hit up this thread for any questions! I hope this was clear.



Hey I have a question, I have an Mpc 2000xl of course i purchased a multi card reader when purchased it I also purchased the floppy connector power cable which the multi card reader needs but at the other end it was a molex connector, which doesnt fit to the mother board where the original power cable connected to. I have been trying to figure out the name of that particular connector (the one on the mpc 2000xl mother board) can you or ay of you help me on figuring out the name of it? Some one said I can get a bridge, Im trying to find a power cable which has a floppy connector and on the other end the connector that connects to the mpc 2000xl mother board. I do have images of what I have but Im new to this forum and do not know how to upload images.