By BenSen
Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:00 am
Hey there,
my problem is, that I don't hear any instrumental sound changes, while changing it on my keyboard (Technics SX-KN470). No matter what instrument sound I choose, I'll only hear the piano sound.
First of all, try to provide as much information as possible, that's why the following text might seem a little unstructured and confusing. Sorry for that in advance :/
My setup is:
I will post my questions here now, as you maybe don't need to read all that stuff to understand my problem and already might know what the solution is:
What I tried for now is:
(To give you the full story - may not be relevant for the instruments sound problem:
Additionally I experienced that there was a delay/latency on the MIDI Signal. Well not the MIDI Signal itself, but the sound I heared on my headphones. On playing back the recorded MIDI signal, the sound appeared some 1/10th seconds after the start of the sound tile in the software was reached.
So I did another research on how to eliminate this latency. The fix was not to use "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth" but to install another MIDI Synth. What I found was this one https://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/vi... which actually works now, as I could set the latency to 1ms. In the end I heared the sound immediately when I pressed any key on the keyboard.)
As I couldn't find any "thru put" setting on the MPC Studio, which I saw in different "MIDI connection to MPC tutorials" on YT, I really don't know what I've to change. In so many Videos, I saw that the user simply connects the MIDI out of the keyboard to the MIDI-in on the MPC and the sound being chosen on the keyboard is played back...
What I have in mind what could help:
But before I start purchasing again any stuff that I don't really need, it would be great if someone could help me, finding the correct connection in order to get a i.e. trumpet sound out of my keyboard and thru the MPC to my software, back out to my headphones.
Thank you very much!
my problem is, that I don't hear any instrumental sound changes, while changing it on my keyboard (Technics SX-KN470). No matter what instrument sound I choose, I'll only hear the piano sound.
First of all, try to provide as much information as possible, that's why the following text might seem a little unstructured and confusing. Sorry for that in advance :/
My setup is:
- - MPC Software 2.1
- MPC Studio
- Technics SX-KN470
I will post my questions here now, as you maybe don't need to read all that stuff to understand my problem and already might know what the solution is:
- - Does my connection, described below make any sense in general?
- Is the KN470 capable of sending a proper MIDI signal?
- Are there maybe two different kind of MIDI signals? So one with MIDI control only, and one with MIDI + Audio?
- Does the KN470 can only send the MIDI control but not the MIDI + Audio signal?
- If the KN470 is capable of sending a proper MIDI signal (+instrument sound) what should I change on my connection / MPC MIDI-In settings?
What I tried for now is:
- Watching/Reading a bunch of tutorials on different Forums, technical (MIDI) + MCP related "how-to"s
- I connected the KN470 via MIDI-out to MIDI-in via MIDI-adapter to my MPC Studio.
On the KN470 I set Poly1, which is the instrument sound you can set (from 00=Piano (which is the sound I always hear, but can't change) to 99=some kind of drums), to MIDI Channel 1 and in the MPC Software, I selected to listen to MIDI Port1.
Current status is that I receive the MIDI signal from my keyboard in the software when the MIDI tab is selected. Also the notes and velocity is recognized. So far so good. But I still can't change the instrument. Well I CAN change the instrument on the keyboard, but what I will hear is still the piano sound only. On the keyboard speakers the instrument I've chosen is played back.
(To give you the full story - may not be relevant for the instruments sound problem:
Additionally I experienced that there was a delay/latency on the MIDI Signal. Well not the MIDI Signal itself, but the sound I heared on my headphones. On playing back the recorded MIDI signal, the sound appeared some 1/10th seconds after the start of the sound tile in the software was reached.
So I did another research on how to eliminate this latency. The fix was not to use "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth" but to install another MIDI Synth. What I found was this one https://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/vi... which actually works now, as I could set the latency to 1ms. In the end I heared the sound immediately when I pressed any key on the keyboard.)
As I couldn't find any "thru put" setting on the MPC Studio, which I saw in different "MIDI connection to MPC tutorials" on YT, I really don't know what I've to change. In so many Videos, I saw that the user simply connects the MIDI out of the keyboard to the MIDI-in on the MPC and the sound being chosen on the keyboard is played back...
What I have in mind what could help:
- - 2nd MIDI cable in order to put the MIDI signal back from the MPC (MIDI-out) to the keyboard (MIDI-in).
This one I found on the keyboards manual. Here it says:
Use this connection "To record your performance in a connected MIDI sequencer, or to generate sound from this instrument by operating a connected MIDI sequencer". But I'm not sure if this will help. Before I buy another MIDI cable, and I will still be disappointed because it still might no work, I decided to get some help/feedback here, it this plan/cable makes sense at all.
- I also learned that the MIDI signal is a control signal only, so not an audio signal. Here's the part I'm confused again, because if it's only a control signal, why do I hear the piano sound then? I asked a friend of mine and he told me the same "it's only a control signal not audio signal" and the piano sound would be the default MIDI sample sound of this keyboard, and I have to get an audio interface.
So I started searching for audio interfaces, seeing that would have to connect the MIDI-out of the keyboard to the MIDI-in on the audio interface, which will then transform the MIDI signal into an audio signal.
I'd then hook up the audio interface (phone jack 6,3mm-out), generating the audio signal, to my PC Line-In (phone jack 3,5mm). In the MPC Software I'd try then to set the MIDI-In to Line-In. All theoretically.
- Going out of the Headphone Jack from my keyboard - but then I would miss the MIDI signal :/
But before I start purchasing again any stuff that I don't really need, it would be great if someone could help me, finding the correct connection in order to get a i.e. trumpet sound out of my keyboard and thru the MPC to my software, back out to my headphones.
Thank you very much!