Elmacaco

another question if you don't mind. You see, everyody always is talking about adding another mpc etc... some have like 20 mpc 3000's etc.. Anyway, If I ever had the chance at another machine(I promised myself no more for a while) I would take the SP 1200, and have that and my 60 work as a team. I love the sp 1200, I used to work on a sp12 turbo(still have it-it's toast). What are your comparisons on the 60(mk2) with the upgrade vs. the sp 1200? The only thing is, if I were ever to go on a 1200, the buttons are all small, I would miss the m nice pads.

thanks

Also, I came across this website.

http://www.kidnepro.com/KN/AKAI/Akai.html

the first demo sounded wack.

THe SP sounds dope, but as a sequencer and even as a sampler it is limited compared to the 60. Having both would be cool, but if it was one or the other I would pick the 60. Just read the manuals for both, the sp can be cumbersome in many ways. Once you get deeper into the 60 you'll know if you like it better than the SP, SP's will always be available.

does the sp1200 have low and high pass filters? that would be somewhat of a plus.. but then, you can just go with something like an eps or asr for filtering...

one thing I find cumbersome about the 60 is the time it takes to copy sounds, for example, if I'm chopping a phrase, I'll truncate-copy-truncate-copy etc.. instead of sampling again..

Here's where you can get the sp1200 manual:
http://www.synthman.com/emu/support/sp1 ... manual.pdf

Lowpass only, no resonance, and permanant on the outputs, no assigning them to sounds, only outputs. The 60 is more machine for sure, get an emax or other rack with filters if you want that.

Yeah, the copy does take a long time, I stopped using it mostly and just sample each sound except on rare occasions, it's a lot quicker.

ELMACACO.. so the 60 is more "rare" than the 1200?

Not sure, but who cares?

They probably made a lot of 60's, but the reissued the 1200, so there may be more 1200's or more 60's, I really don't know.

The SP sounds great, has a great user interface with the sliders, but it has a bunch of shortcommings that may or may not bother you (no quantize off, irregular timing unless slaved to smpte, etc.)

The 60 with upgrade is rarer than the 1200, I can't imagine there are that many, but I really don't know the numbers.

The 60 with 3.10 allows you to do so much it's just crazy! I would miss all that if I switched, a machine that as all the 60 features with such a great interface is pretty rare.

cOOL, THANKS.. I have an sp 12 turbo, but it is pretty worn out, some sh*T doesnt work right. The total sampling time is 5 seconds. Im thinking of getting it looked at and working both. Do you know if you can send it in to emu?

emu won't do any good, find a good tech in your area.

Using both is a great idea.

thought so, thanks. Maybe FORAT?

They are kinda Pricey, I'd go with other techs, like VST in Pasadena.

vst, cool, I'll look them up..thanks

elmacaco. Do you think that an sp 12 with a 60 would sound better than just a 60. I mean, he sp 12 is so limited as far as sampling time, and the 60 is 12 bit. Why bother right? I would assume that hooking the sp 303(like we discussed a while ago) would make more sense. Any comment?

Use both man. DOn't ditch the 12, it has a better sound and filters. The 303 is great too, but I think you will miss using the sp12 if you ditch it.

You can start a song on any machine, then use the others to flesh it out if need be. Or as Drumat!c said, sample into the sp first, then from that into the MPC. I tried this with the emax and the 60 and it does improve the sound a bit, but it depends on the source material, good drums sound great in the 60, weak drums sound OK. On an old emu sampler, weak drums sound good and good drums sound great.

I just found out that Ali Shaheed Mohammed used a 60 II back in the day. But I am not sure how certain it is, besides a guy I know who worked with them saw his studio and it had a 60 II and a 900 or a 950.