Vote 193

pk1 wrote:
Glad everybody dug those samples.
the record martel psyche, and i believe chillin used was off "Gary Burton - Turn of the century" all kinds of stuff to use on that record.you all knew the bob james. "The Foundations - Diggin the Foundations"

hard choice. but i will have to go with what sounded like the most work. loved em both. but i know quick comes in and bangs these battles out in twenty min.

hope to hear more from you Martel

pk1 wrote:i think the vote is dead. technically we should be going till this evening. so psyche is right. I may accidentally, not have changed it to a two day vote. so it ended earlier then supposed to.

Its all good man it ends tomorrow night

MPCWeapon1 wrote:What's the criteria for these battles so I can know how to vote next time.

Dez got my vote because I thought he flipped the sample the best out of the rest of the competition.

I dont get it. How are we judging these sampled based beats?

You answered you own question mate, the criteria is its all based on what you feel is the best

MPCWeapon1 wrote:Now if we were to look at this as QuickStrike VS Martell how does Martell get the vote when Quick samples a phrase, while he didn't flip it he crafts the sound to make it his own, adds percussion variations, and writes a flute melody that makes you feel the beat..... And Martell while the beat is well put together he just looped the first phrase he hears on the song and puts some drums underneath it with a couple of sounds?

I dont get it. How are we judging these sampled based beats?

martel80 wrote:Dont mean do be rude MpcWeapons but you might want to get a second listen to the beat I did if all you hear is the first sample that come up in there.

Also, a good set of monitors might have made you hear something particular about how I mixed it.

I've used the same samples twice.

One was Mono with HPF to 400hz ( That one was gain staged accordingly to make it a strong bass )
The other was Stereo with LPF at 250hz and I opened the stereo field.
There was also panning, gain riding and frequency filtering in what I did.
While I may find excuses why you would think my beat may have not been better then the others, I can also tell by that comment why your beats or the one you judged best seems to sound good to you.
Get some good Monitors brother, you wont regret it.

I personally like my music based on my taste in music, for that reason I prefer Golden age Rap beat and cant stand Trap music.

But if I personally had to choose between 2 track, one sounding like a kid distorting his ipad input and another out of a Neve console, the question would answer by itself.

It's cool to be creative but to me there's a certain limit (to my taste ). I learned that the day one of my artist friend made me discover a genre of music called Noise in a Loft Party in 2002-2003.
All sort of squeeking, Knocking, distortiton....you get that for 30 minute and you need to go out of the loft and vents because youre about to high five someone in the face with a chair.
Being creative is cool, mixing properly is also cool.

While I write this, I just understood something....
This is a Beat battle, who cares about the mix.....
It's not a mix battle.....
Kids doenst even need to differentiate a balanced mix to a anemic mix.
We just need to judge the beat for sample chopping, processing and creativity process.
You are right.

Why would we judge the sound quality anyways, I might be the only one with a studio in here anyways.

pk1 wrote:its not a mix battle....
unless you choose to see it that way. Like i said, i would only start looking at the next debatable thing of two-three beats, if im having an issue choosing the better of my liking.
I believe quick has studio and i only moved out of mine cpl years ago. never the less, some good monitors is crucial. understanding what your feeding them is even more..

and it looks like unless some y'all get your boys, or your girlfriends to register and vote... this may be a wrap

MPCWeapon1 wrote:
Well here's why I wasn't feeling your beat. It's the sample. Those piano chords and melody were too cheesy. It sounded like a Mr Roger's episode. This is no fault of your own, you didn't dig in the crate for the sample you were just working with what you were given... the beat was put together well and it was good sonically.. The sample just didn't resonate with me. Plus I thought me and you were on the same page with Quick's beat being better. The reasoning for PK1 voting for you over Quick is what made me say,... "hold up, what's the criteria, here."

As far as Monitors.thats not the issue. I make these beat battle beats in like 15 - 20 minutes..I don't do any mixing. The only mixing I did on the last beat was move the brass frequencies outta the way of the Saxophone so I can layer it. If I wanted to engage in a battle of sonics I would pull my MPC 4000 out.

martel80 wrote:

MPCWeapon1 wrote:
Well here's why I wasn't feeling your beat. It's the sample. Those piano chords and melody were too cheesy. It sounded like a Mr Roger's episode. This is no fault of your own, you didn't dig in the crate for the sample you were just working with what you were given... the beat was put together well and it was good sonically.. The sample just didn't resonate with me. Plus I thought me and you were on the same page with Quick's beat being better. The reasoning for PK1 voting for you over Quick is what made me say,... "hold up, what's the criteria, here."

As far as Monitors.thats not the issue. I make these beat battle beats in like 15 - 20 minutes..I don't do any mixing. The only mixing I did on the last beat was move the brass frequencies outta the way of the Saxophone so I can layer it. If I wanted to engage in a battle of sonics I would pull my MPC 4000 out.

I totally agree that beat for beat, Quick was flat killing me on this one. I still believe he beat me.
On the other hand, if there's headz in this place like I believe I am, I know why they would have voted for me.

Put your 4k out next battle were up against, teach me a mixing lesson and show us all you can make a finished product.

pk1 wrote:*Nobody is out of line this is just my friendly reminder*

Nothing wrong with a little tension, and getting actually heated. Real battle style. I only ask yall that's it's not keyboard style. Always keep it How we would act face to face in public. This is a battle thread. We are grown men, and good battle is a great part of hip hop.