Roland Boutique

This reminds me of the Yamaha Reface synths that came out recently. Hopefully they're better.



http://www.rolandus.com/promos/roland_boutique/

The amount of competition for desktop real estate is getting pretty intense. I'm slowly trading the majority of my desktop stuff in for rack mount units, to child proof the studio. I would bet these "Boutiques" are digital anyway...

pre-ordered the Jupiter-eque unit.

Roland showing promise lately

dcook79 wrote:pre-ordered the Jupiter-eque unit.

Roland showing promise lately

Let me know how you like it when you get it. I always wanted a Jupiter 8. But they're expensive as hell. So I'm really interested in this model.

distortedtekno wrote:

dcook79 wrote:pre-ordered the Jupiter-eque unit.

Roland showing promise lately

Let me know how you like it when you get it. I always wanted a Jupiter 8. But they're expensive as hell. So I'm really interested in this model.

cool thing about this trio is you can chain the different units together to gain the added voices. So I've read...

dcook79 wrote:

distortedtekno wrote:

dcook79 wrote:pre-ordered the Jupiter-eque unit.

Roland showing promise lately

Let me know how you like it when you get it. I always wanted a Jupiter 8. But they're expensive as hell. So I'm really interested in this model.

cool thing about this trio is you can chain the different units together to gain the added voices. So I've read...

There is some confusion regarding if they need to be like for like version (i.e. jx to jx or ju to ju) in order to expand the voices from 4 to 8.

At any rate... I ordered all 3. I wasnt so interested in the Aira lines as much as I am these.

That would be cool if they can mix and match. I like all 3. But I'll be happy with one. 4 voices on the Jupiter should keep me satisfied. I'm not making trance or anything chord-heavy.

anyone cop these yet and care to share initial thoughts...??

Yup! I got all 3.

I can honestly say that I love the sound of each of them. ACB is killer. I know analog and these sound analog. not sure how Roland does it with ACB but its probably the most authentic sounding emulation of analog ever to my ears. My fav is the JX but thats only because I really dig the JX sound not really a mark on the other two in any negative way as if they sound any less authentic or good. But the JU and JP are ill too. They are about as big as a the original 303 so they are workable and not as bad on the small side as I'd anticipated. bigger than volca not as big as a rack mountable module.

One thing I hate is that the MIDI implementation is lacking. I'd planned to use a controller for knobby tweaks and to have an alternative to the smaller controls but there are only 3 CC controls... pitch bend and a couple other. no other CC controls so no automating these in DAW or whatever and no controlling them from external controller. But I pretty certain this is something that can be updated via OS / firmware update.

Other than that I still cant be so mad at the midi CC shortcomings because the sound is so killer and authentic. NO joke!

i ended up copping the JP, then JU a week later. I feel you on the midi implementation. We can always dream for firmware updates.

otherwise have fun tweaking and recording parameters live

loose_t wrote:The amount of competition for desktop real estate is getting pretty intense.

I feel ya man!

a bit hacky, but apparently you can midi control almost all parameters via sysex
http://forums.rolandclan.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=50934

tboneuk wrote:I found that the controls actually have an address of 2 bytes and not the original one. so the actual format is as follows:

F0 - Start Sysex
41 - Roland identifier
10 - Divice ID
00 - Model ID
00 -
00
1C - Boutique ID (1C = JP, 1D = JU or 1E = JX)
12
03
00
XH - Control number H (Usually each section has its own value
XL - Control number L (Each knob/button/switch has its own value within the section
XX - 8 bit value sent, split over 2 bytes.The 4 hi bits of each byte are zero and the lo 4 bits
XX - contain the data – sent most significant byte first – as follows: 0000HHHH, 0000LLLL
XX - Standard Roland Checksum
F7 - End Sysex

roland boutique sysex implementation chart wrote: JU-06

XH XL
06 00 LFO RATE
06 02 LFO DELAYTIME
07 02 DCO LFO
07 04 DCO PWM
07 0C DCO SUB
07 0E DCO NOISE
08 00 HPF FREQ
08 02 VCF FREQ
08 04 VCF RES
08 08 VCF ENV
08 0A VCF LFO
08 0C VCF KYBD
09 02 VCA LEVEL
0A 00 ENV A
0A 02 ENV D
0A 04 ENV S
0A 06 ENV R


JX-03

XH XL
0C 0C DCO2 TUNE
0C 0E DCO2 FINETUNE
0C 16 LFO
0C 18 ENV
0D 00 VCF SOURCEMIX
0D 02 VCF HPF
0D 08 VCF ENVMOD
0D 04 VCF CUTOFFFREQ
0D 06 VCF RESONANCE
0D 0C VCF LFOMOD
0D 0E VCF PITCHFOLLOW
0E 02 VCA LEVEL
0B 04 LFO DELAYTIME
0B 02 LFO RATE
0F 00 ENV A
0F 02 ENV D
0F 04 ENV S
0F 06 ENV R


JP-08

XH XL
00 00 LFO RATE
00 02 LFO DELAY TIME
01 00 VCOMOD LFO MOD
01 02 VCOMOD ENV MOD
01 06 VCOMOD PULSEWIDTHMOD
01 0A VCOMOD CROSSMOD
01 12 VCO2 RANGE
01 14 VCO2 TUNE
01 18 VCO1&2 SOURCEMIX
02 00 HPF CUTTOFF
02 02 VCF CUTTOFF
02 04 VCF REZ
02 0C VCF LFO MOD
02 08 VCF ENV MOD
02 0E VCF KEYFOLLOW
03 00 VCA LEVEL
04 00 ENV1 A
04 02 ENV1 D
04 04 ENV1 S
04 06 ENV1 R
05 00 ENV2 A
05 02 ENV2 D
05 04 ENV2 S
05 06 ENV2 R