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By DJEther Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:16 pm
hahahaha :lol:

I gues you left em speechless.

I have the Emax I SE HD model and now i can tell that there is a difference in sound between the two now that ive seen your video.
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By kneebone77 Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:43 pm
Well, I was one of the people that said that there was a difference, yet i like the Emax better. After watching your vid this still remains true. BTW thanks for posting that up. It's an excellent reference for those trying to decide between the two.
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By peterpiper Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:23 pm
Sorry I'm late :) But I just can repeat. I really love all the dxa videos and its so damn cool they are in HD.
I mean I got that 950 and its a beauty but SPs really hooked me. Its really strange. Its that same feeling I had as a teenager when I knew "sooner or later I will get those Technics 1210." I really dreamed of them. A year later a friend of mine sold his DJ Set and he was so nice to let me pay by installments. Crazy, I'm nearly 35 and have seen a lot of gear but when it comes to the SP I behave like a child :D
SP videos are porn (of course not all of them ;))
Thank you and dont stop that shit!

peace
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By vinyl_junkie_1620 Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:05 pm
Yeah the DXA vids are dope! Keep up the great work guys
Man that snare on the SP sounds like A Tribe Called Quest on that first sample at the original speed but then the EMAX damnn when it's solwed down in the sampler I swear on that vid it sounds even nicer than the SP..you can deff tell the sound difference the SP is a LOT more lo-fi
SP-1200 is porno indeed lol
I'd love to see a simmilar vid with a S-950 and the EMAX
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By Ben.H Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:43 am
Question: is there a difference between using a lower sampling rate or going 45 then pitching down? ie do you get more aliasing when you pitch down sa opposed to just using a low sampling rate?

I use the "10000" setting on my s950, but maybe i'll try 45 and pitching down to see if its crunchier!
By MPZ60 Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:46 am
SP 1200 sounds like the winner to me. Sounds like it has a boost in the 100hz range right off the bat. Plust the aliasing makes for nice character.

The Emax is very clean sounding and pitching barely even affected the sound.
By roxstar Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:17 am
I had posted a comment on there... not sure why the owner of the vids took it off, but..
the Emax has variable sample modes. The video's are telling a completely different story from the truth. The Emax can sound very clean at it's highest bitrate, and WAYYY dirtier than the SP-12/1200 at it's lowest, but at (I believe) 10hz, it sounds very, very, very, very close to the SP-12. I owned them both at the same time, and sole the SP-12 because there was no reason to keep it. I mean, I payed $100 for it, and sold it for $535 + shipping on ebay a year later...not to mention, I like the sound of the emax over the SP-12 becuase I have the choice of changing the bit rates.
If you really want the SP1200 sound, do yourself a favor and cop an emax. The video was dope, but at the right setting, the emax doesn't sound different over the SP-12! I watched those video's and was SHOCKED how much different the two machines sounded. Again, if they had selected the right sample rate, it would not sound noticably different.
Unless you just really want an SP-12/1200, you'd be a fool to pass up a sampler that sounds just like it, with more memory, and is cheaper. The Emax is where it's at! I haven't used mine in about 4 years now, and I still won't sell it.
Lets hear a video with all the sampler rates selected, and then compare that to the SP-1200.
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By 950skweezyotitties Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:57 pm
roxstar you are....... wrrrrrrrong

10khz is almost completely unusable and sounds nothin like a sp.


this is from the gs convo on teh subject

"On the topic..I would only counter to say that the Emax gives you an alias tone @ 10K..but then the sound quality is so bad it ain't really bangin' anymore."


i used to sample rate closest to the sp to show how the samplers react under the same conditions. the rest of the sample rates on the emax arent valid for this test.


roxstar feel free to disprove me with your own test but i took your comment down becasue it is straight nonsense imo. :lol:
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By 950skweezyotitties Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:24 pm
to prove what im saying here is an ammended piece of audio for the test

the sampler at 10khz with the audio from test one

http://www.zshare.net/audio/617599968a107b73/

here for yourself and judge.


"The Emax can sound very clean at it's highest bitrate, and WAYYY dirtier than the SP-12/1200 at it's lowest, but at (I believe) 10hz, it sounds very, very, very, very close to the SP-12."

at 10khz the emax doesnt sound dirty or anything like an sp for that matter

it sounds paper thin, airy, unclear, and unusable at 10khz
By roxstar Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:42 pm
I dunno what the sample rate is now (because I sold the SP-12) but I do remember testing both of them and hearing basically the same thing. If there was a difference, I would have kept the SP-12. Maybe it has something to so with hardware/software revisions (which I hear they had many changes).
I'm not the first person to say that the two samplers sound very much alike, so maybe it's an issue with your Emax, but mine sounded VERY close to the SP-12. Same ring-modulation/grittiness that the SP's give the samples, and at the highest bitrate, it sounded very clean. You've sparked my curiosity again. I'm gonna fire the Emax up tonight.
Post up a clean sample of anything (wav), and I'll process it at every birate on the Emax. You do the same with the SP12/1200.