Forum for all other samplers & synths such as Maschine, MVs, Akai S & Z series, Roland, Korg, OP-1, analog synths etc.
By szr Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:38 pm
18 samplers now covered

Added: ASR10 (rack), EPS16+ (rack), EPS-M (rack)
(Also added the S10, thanks to sadzik!)


Made a webpage with updated specs/info... and direct download link to the shootout zip:
http://sampler-shootout.fromafarawayplace.com

..New soundcoud page:
http://soundcloud.com/sampler-shootout


I've grouped everything into 3 ODB shootouts (In the zip as well as on soundcloud):

Standard samplerate shootout:
http://soundcloud.com/sampler-shootout/sets/odb-main/

Lower samplerate shootout:
http://soundcloud.com/sampler-shootout/ ... mplerates/

Transposition shootout:
http://soundcloud.com/sampler-shootout/ ... nsposition

(The other shootout, and extra audio is in the zip only)


ASR10 killed alot of the other 16 bit samplers...

But it's a close call between ASR and S1100/1000.. Tell me what you think
Snares are more in you face/punchy on the Akais... but the ASR has a warmer/deeper bassend..
Prob the best bassend next to the sp12 ..
ASR10 loved overloaded input signals... alot more than the EPS16.. (documented on the page)

But if you use the ASR as your main sampler I wouldn't use it for drums personally.. an akai would offer better contrast .. and definition,
By m56p87 Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:52 pm
No love for the 2k/xl in this thread! Thin? I just went through a phase where I loaded samples off my floppy but recently switched back to sampling into the machine, and wow. If you don't hear an audible improvement, your not doing it right. Its like have a better button on my samples. It's a myth that only a 60/950 can knock hard.

In regard to the main outs vs individual outs thing, when I do an a/b comparison on my mixer it sounds like there is a very slight/wide reduction through the mids on the mains.

Dope thread szr!
By szr Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:21 pm
Thanks :-D , and since you brought up the 2kxl.... here is my experience with it

I was working on a remix, used fl studio which was always my fav music app...
I exported all the main tracks and and stuck them into reaper... sounded worse straight away.
Then I used sonar... sound was even worse than reaper.. The main problem was that in both daws the drums lost their groove.. just sounded like piss... summing also seemed different/weaker... anyway I experienced the same c*rap years ago when I had the same workflow.

So then I bought the xl... was my 2nd hw seq. 1st one was an rs7k... which I always found had a s*it groove on drums..but otherwise had a great sound engine and realtime audio masturbation capabilities .
Anyway then I exported all the loops into the xl (didnt even use the sample ins)

...Sounded 'right' .... drums kicked the ass of anything I ever did in FL studio.. where I usually had to layer 10kicks and snares to get the full sound I wanted....

So after that experience I ditched the PC for music making and went OTB... music has been alot more fluid/fun since then... although OTB isn't for everyone.. and some people do great things ITB.

Anyway even though I've found alot of other samplers since then that I think sound 'better' than the xl...
I'd still give it credit for being one of the punchiest of all the samplers I've tried... when triggering internal single hit drum sounds... and my hihat patterns always sounded really funky with that thing... with or without swing.. :smoker: Haven't been able to duplicate that with the mp4k.. which is great for it's robotic timing...but not always what you need..

...and I also prefer the xl sound to the 4k.... but I really hate the 4k sound.. so that's not saying much..... anyway to sum up, for drums I still think the xl is worth having.... nicer again is using it with something warmer like the asr/eps16 for a good contrast.
By szr Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:20 pm
yea the only negative is the blurred transients on drums when you overdrive the tape.....

....anyway I noticed something really odd when comparing all the samplers...... the asr10 sounds almost identical to the ADS... crazy how similar the transposition sounds too (especially at +24)....... what else if funny is that they dont sound alike other than in this shootout.

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By v00d00ppl Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:54 am
Anyone have a machinedrum UW to do a shootout with? I want to hear how it holds up against other 12 bits. I want to hear the direct sampling and transferring higher bit depth with lowering to 12 bit options too.