MPCX/LIVE STAND ALONE CREW! NO 2.0 SOFTWARE!!! Yep

MPC-Tutor wrote:Someone already mentioned this somewhere, but just to reiterate, the WAVE editor that's available in the computer MPC Software isn't as well implemented in the standalone software. So basically if you have a DRUM program selected, go to PROG EDIT and in the computer hit WAVE to show the WAVE editor for the sample on the current pad.



Here you'll be able to edit a bunch of parameters, some taken from PROG EDIT and some from SAMPLE EDIT. Notice that you have WARP, Stretch and BPM settings here.

In the standalone software, for DRUM and KEYGROUP programs at least, there is no equivalent to this WAVE editor. So you can of course edit most of the parameters via PROG EDIT and SAMPLE EDIT, but you'll spot that the WARP related settings are nowhere to be found. I assumed they might be buried in SAMPLE EDIT, but they are not. So if you do wish to warp a sample in a drum program you'll need to do it in the computer.

This isn't a problem for audio tracks as there's a dedicated mode for editing audio tracks.

So, missing in standalone so far:

LIST editor
Automation/modifier lane in grid edit
MIDI program Q Link edit
Warp settings for DRUM & KEYGROUP programs

So there is no realtime time stretching in Sample Edit mode and drum program in the LIVE. So a workaround would be create a dummy Sequence. Realtime time stretch/ pitch shift to taste in a audio track or clip and then bounce the sequence to new sample.

I couldn't find an option to bounce a audio track directly to a sample

What happen to all those promo video of the entire "2.0" being in the machine? I'ma little bitter about this because this was the main feature I wanted to use.

So, seriously?
You cannot do the realtime stretching ("warping") thing with Live alone?

vinylstyle wrote:Sorry I thought you meant MPC -> Midi Output (like a synth) regarding midi programs. I haven't found a way to map incoming midi.

Okay, thanks for the info! Will have to wait and see.

Fanu wrote:So, seriously?
You cannot do the realtime stretching ("warping") thing with Live alone?

Seems only in Audio Track and Clip Mode.

kaydigi wrote:

Fanu wrote:So, seriously?
You cannot do the realtime stretching ("warping") thing with Live alone?

Seems only in Audio Track and Clip Mode.

what a joke

somebody with a twitter account should ask pete about the whole missing standalone sample edit and drum program warping thing.. would like to hear/read his answer!

handed wrote:Looks like the hardware can only handle a certain amount of time-stretching due to CPU limitations. Keeping it limited to clips and audio tracks means people are less likely to hit a CPU wall. That's not a deal breaker for me but kind of annoying. Would be better if it was a semi-hidden "use at your own risk" feature - better than not available at all.

I thought the point of having hardware with a multicore processor was so that these types of limitations would be non existent. How do DAWs like Ableton handle it? How is it that my 10year old Roland MV8800 can handle time stretching more efficiently with a MUCH slower CPU??!!

Maybe Akai could benefit from studying how other companies handle real time time stretch & then implement it into the MPC 2.0 software. Real time time stretch is one of the main features that I was looking forward to having in the MPC Live. It feels like Akai has crippled this feature.

Can't wait to get mine, I plan to use it strictly standalone so I'm gonna go deep inside the Live and see if it was done right. So far, from the manual, things really changed since the last standalone MPC, I skipped the Renaissance

As long pitch tuning is there I'm good.

Yep me too.

Ill-Green wrote:Can't wait to get mine, I plan to use it strictly standalone so I'm gonna go deep inside the Live and see if it was done right. So far, from the manual, things really changed since the last standalone MPC, I skipped the Renaissance

As long pitch tuning is there I'm good.

Danoc wrote:Yep me too.

Ill-Green wrote:Can't wait to get mine, I plan to use it strictly standalone so I'm gonna go deep inside the Live and see if it was done right. So far, from the manual, things really changed since the last standalone MPC, I skipped the Renaissance

As long pitch tuning is there I'm good.

At this point, I don't mind the wait. It seems the first MPC Lives out in the wild, were from an early batch supposely for the February launch but never went anywhere due to OS issues. I wanna popping fresh Live

here are two vids who clarify a lil'bit on this whole time stretch and pitch shift confusion:

on the first video go to 8:55



on the second video to 5:39


hope it helps somehow??

would be also great if the ppl here who already own a mpc live could try this out and give some feedback to that. thx

On the second video…it doesn't show him turn on warping, though, so how is timestretching performed?

Fanu wrote:On the second video…it doesn't show him turn on warping, though, so how is timestretching performed?

that's a good Q?!!

matt underwood wrote:

Fanu wrote:On the second video…it doesn't show him turn on warping, though, so how is timestretching performed?

that's a good Q?!!

Yeah because that right there is confusing to me right now.
He performs no warping (unless he did use a computer to turn warping on and doesn't show it).

The local Akai retailer asked me to join him in a casual MPC Live demonstration thing next week in Helsinki, as he knows I'm OK with Touch / 1.9, and I just saw that and now I'm like wait, what....? :-0

Second video, he only did pitch shifting, that's not time stretching. He went to +12 semi-tones and that worked pretty well, I didn't get to see the first video.

matt underwood wrote:here are two vids who clarify a lil'bit on this whole time stretch and pitch shift confusion:
on the second video to 5:39

hope it helps somehow??

would be also great if the ppl here who already own a mpc live could try this out and give some feedback to that. thx