You know the new MPCS are a failure when...

Wormhelmet wrote:This is the Wikipedia definition (in which I most definitely fit in the DAWless category):

“A digital audio workstation (DAW) is an electronic device or application software used for recording, editing and producing audio files. DAWs come in a wide variety of configurations from a single software program on a laptop, to an integrated stand-alone unit, all the way to a highly complex configuration of numerous components controlled by a central computer. Regardless of configuration, modern DAWs have a central interface that allows the user to alter and mix multiple recordings and tracks into a final produced piece.[1]

DAWs are used for the production and recording of music, songs, speech, radio, television, soundtracks, podcasts, sound effects and nearly any other situation where complex recorded audio is needed.“

No DAW vs DAWless debate from me. I never said anyone shouldn’t be using a DAW or made fun of people that use a DAW, or talked down to bedroom producers doing it as a hobby like I was all that and a bag of chips and doing a superior dance on my DAW.

That’s where my issue is.

I still think the bedroom artist working on his or her budget that takes to the equipment in whatever spare time they can, can both produce a hit on their own as well as contribute valuable information to others on a forum. I’m not gonna dismiss someone that might run one hardware synth, an electribe, and a two track recorder that’s makin dope tracks and is helping others understand gear or method. I have issue with people that do dismiss others when they are doing the braggadocio about professional this or that and talking about needing high end gear.

If I see BS, I’m gonna call it like I see it

That was the whole Thurston reference. You can claim a lot of professional recording studio, high end equipment that you want, but you still on MPC Isle (this forum here) with all of others which include a mix of beginners, experienced, bedroom producers, pro software, anti-software, professional audio mixers, amateur audio mixers, and everything in between.

I see a lot of other that got a mindset of one way to do things - their way being the right way.

I’m saying do it whatever way gets it done

I got a grip of equipment too, but I’m a collector. You don’t need all that to make good tracks. You just need some talent and a little bit of gear that jibes with you the right way.

I have issue with people that do dismiss others when they are doing the braggadocio about professional this or that and talking about needing high end gear.

Moho » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:59 pm
and for my 10 cents if you can't email or word process from the same machine its not a daw its a workstation

Moho wrote:Man what is your damage?
No, don't reply cause I don't care, just have a think.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Moho » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:59 pm
and for my 10 cents if you can't email or word process from the same machine its not a daw its a workstation

My old pda, two way pager and current smartphone can email and word process does that make it a DAW?

Moho wrote:You know the new MPCS are a failure when...

people would rather argue over the term daw than talk about the mpc's

and for my 10 cents if you can't email or word process from the same machine its not a daw its a workstation,
now argue the difference but do it somewhere else because how can I put it
BORED NOW

Cockdiesel wrote:Come on guys. This is a total thread derail. Not sure why Charles seems so combative about things, but seems to be alright otherwise. I get people been going back and forth. It’s whatever.

Maybe Charles could make a thread about his pro dream piece of equipment and people can chime in. Maybe even some Akai lurkers might see it and get the gears turning.

Perhaps this thread should just be closed. I haven’t been paying to much attention but it gets more and more confusing everyday.

We can be keyboard warriors, artists, friends, a community working on great ideas.... I’m cool with all but the first one.

My hotel room producing 2 cents....

Cockdiesel wrote:Lol.
The thread title is about Akai failing, some how hopes and dreams get brought up, personal workflows unrelated the the issues mentioned by op, IllGreens Mpc live stand and previous setups, Danoc reassuring is that the live is where it’s at, and bickering about the definition of a daw and even every step of the way.. is Akai the failure or us? The last comment only the last 10 comments reinforces all the above.

CharlesRandolph wrote:
I've worked low pay jobs, didn't go out, ate top ramen and hotdogs. So I could buy better gear and control my future. Then I spent hours on top of hours working on my skills, when know one would talk about gear, share records, or any tips

CharlesRandolph wrote:You hear it all the time, aww they just sample. So they don't need the best. It's not just in gear but with record labels. Hiphop Artist get the lowest budgets across any genre. This transfer to equipment manufacturers. I'm fine with a simple sequencer and samplers, but I want them to put the tech into those machine. Treat us with the same dignity and respect like they do guitarist and pianist.

My goal is to help raise the bar and tell them NO! You can't just release this low budget device. You want our money make it great.

Cockdiesel wrote:

CharlesRandolph wrote:
I've worked low pay jobs, didn't go out, ate top ramen and hotdogs. So I could buy better gear and control my future. Then I spent hours on top of hours working on my skills, when know one would talk about gear, share records, or any tips

Cockdiesel wrote:Lol.
The thread title is about Akai failing, some how hopes and dreams get brought up, personal workflows unrelated the the issues mentioned by op, IllGreens Mpc live stand and previous setups, Danoc reassuring is that the live is where it’s at, and bickering about the definition of a daw and even every step of the way.. is Akai the failure or us? The last comment only the last 10 comments reinforces all the above.