Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By m56p87 Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:42 am
SIMU1200
sample pack created by m56p87
27mb w/ 339 files (Mono 16bit WAVs)
drums&hits - "hyper sampled" chords&keys + synth leads&pads)


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my bullshit commentary:

So i listened to Jibbers first SP1200 beat yesterday :) , and heard those awesome artifacts & warm sound the Emu SP series provides. So this morning I started making some simple effect chains to see if I could get that sound, particularly the ring modulation sound you get from I believe doing the pitch up and pitch down trick and the artifacts you get on things like hi-hats etc...
I was planning on just messing around for a few minutes while i had coffee, and what started as a 15 minute experiment on my ipad turned into a 6 hour trackfest involving a ton of subtle processing to get the best approximation. About half way through i kind of veered off of emulating the sp1200 and dumped the samples to analog tape to create my own ideal lofi sound.

destruction process:

step1 - slight low threshold compression with instant attack & release
step2 - multiband ring modulation (tapers below 500hz)
step3 - multiband bit crusher (tapers belows 900hz)
step4 - bit depth & sample rate reduction (reduced to 16bits @ 24khz)
step5 - slightly overdriven onto 1/4 inch reel to reel tape @ 3.75 ips (0 to 5+ db)
step5 - recorded onto dps12 through A/D converters (16bit @ 44.1khz)
final ish - dumped onto my computer, chopped in recycle and noise gated.

hope you guys like em, if it gets a good response Ill do another installment with breaks & samples. If not then no biggie, was just something that seemed fun to try that took on a life of its own. Id definitely recommend adding some decay to the end of samples to sit well in the mix, i couldnt gate out every spec of noise.

Enjoy :smoker:
Last edited by m56p87 on Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:06 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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By damien907 Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:57 am
dopppppe! gonna peep in the morning.


****edit, you know you have 206 posts.... oh yeah your from the eastside :lol: :lol: :lol: jfwy mang
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By Coz Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:43 am
You don't want royalties for these sounds do you, 'cause a few of these little synth stabs have dropped perfectly into the track I'm working on?!

Cheers for the time and effort in putting it together either way. 8)
By m56p87 Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:06 pm
Coz wrote:You don't want royalties for these sounds do you, 'cause a few of these little synth stabs have dropped perfectly into the track I'm working on?!

Cheers for the time and effort in putting it together either way. 8)


Not at all! Do whatever you want with em. Of course I'd love to hear what you did with em but that's entirely up to you. Glad they are working out, been wondering how they sit in people's tracks.
By m56p87 Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:10 pm
crossings wrote:a very generous contribution..... you sir are a gentleman and a scholar. :smoker:


Thanks man, I figured it would balance out with all my posts that contribute nothing.
:-D

To be fair, some of these samples are from various iOS apps. It's probably a 50/50 split. The drums are a lot of manipulated sounds from the apps or synthesized sounds I made in other apps resampled. The synths are mostly presets, and the chords and keys are a mix - a lot of samples from apps that I made my own patches with.

But on most if not all of the hypersampled sounds I tied the filter envelope decay to the keyboard so although the sound go longer as you went lower, they would be roughly the same length because the envelope was on top of the sound rather than baked into the sample. Saves some trouble for someone like me who is particular about that and I have to program the decay and pitch to the velocity then 16 level it in my 2000 for synth/key samples I want to have 16 level tuning on.
By dtaa pla muk Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:34 pm
i've always thought that destructively processed bit-crushed/lower sample rate samples were interesting, because the effect is then detuned/filtered with the sample itself. instead of being a blanket, static part of the sample (like with the sp1200), it becomes a dynamic element that is locked into the sample itself.

cool. thanks for doing this.
By m56p87 Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:22 pm
Nym wrote:i've always thought that destructively processed bit-crushed/lower sample rate samples were interesting, because the effect is then detuned/filtered with the sample itself. instead of being a blanket, static part of the sample (like with the sp1200), it becomes a dynamic element that is locked into the sample itself.

cool. thanks for doing this.


Yeah, but I find myself going back and forth. On the one hand I agree with you, a bit crush effect is far more sonically interesting than just adding digital noise from straight bit reduction. But on the other hand I find bit crush effects to be way too pronounced and distorted. it's just that all the bit crush effects I tried in the past - ramp up immediately. Hence why I've chosen todo multiband bit crush and ring modulation so the effect tapers on the low end (an area I find bit crush effects and bit reduction to act completely different than one another). I would love a bit crush effect that's just straight up completely linear, the smoothest x-over ive heard so far is ableton's "redux" but it's really clean and uniform which i don't like. the multiband trick can turn any shitty crusher into something more useable. I did this one with reason's digital distortion setting on Scream, which I find to be one of the worst bit crush algorithms out there.
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By peterpiper Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:07 pm
So you devide the original sample in different frq. bands and bitcrush only the low freq band??

Have you tried the TB timemachine? I really like its lofi sound. The bitreduction can be switched to react as mulaw bitreduction and this sound very different from other bitreduction plugins IMO. There is also a switchable dithering included.


http://www.kvraudio.com/product/tb-time ... neboosters


peace