Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By badhaddit Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:09 pm
If I am chopping a song, say 4 to 8 bars, into 16 pads should I be time stretching the samples bpm so it matches the project first?

Or, does it not really matter because I will be playing the pads as shorter hits in time with the projects bpm?

Sometimes older samples don't stay on a grid at all so I find it impossible to use most of them if I have to time stretch first

By MrDismal Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:37 pm
Yes it's def based on samples you choose and how much of the 'loop' you decide to sample.

I found time stretching is a waste of time, considering it takes a long time to render. I only use it when I have to. (When I cut a chop too short).
Just lower the tune to slow it down.
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By Lampdog Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:08 am
MrDismal wrote:I found time stretching is a waste of time
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By Ocular Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:44 pm
What Tutor said. Live and Logic are two other apps that have worthwhile warp and stretch functions.
Also, I like to cross-fade loop problematic chops as well. If your chosen platform to make music with has it, check it out.
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By Ocular Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:03 am
Roots Renegade wrote:EPS-16 PLUS has it too!

Lampdog wrote:ASR10 has it......

I think most everything does have cross-fade looping with the exception of every MPC that isn't the 4000 or JJOS enabled.
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By Ocular Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:16 am
Lampdog wrote:I noticed that a long time ago and still smh.

Right! JJOS engrained xfade looping into my work flow so much that when I bought into the MPC Software with the Studio and was certain they were going to add xfade looping then realized they weren't... I went through the seven stages of grief with this ****:
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By JVC Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:25 pm
badhaddit wrote:...
Sometimes older samples don't stay on a grid at all so I find it impossible to use most of them if I have to time stretch first

I thought that's why we chop samples on MPC, so that you can quantize your way... I'd use looper, if I were to just loop samples.