Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By Lampdog Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:22 am
Yeah, no doubt, just me and you. I've done many vocal samples before and I just slowed the beat down and I never had any problems, that's why I keep buggin you and replyin and stuff cause I wanna know the outcome you feel me.

I've never timestretched a vocal or took the beat outta the MPC to do it. I have on many occasion slowed down the tempo cause I my hands can only move so fast, then I up the tempo again to the proper spot and bam it's said and done.

Double the tempo, half the timing, same tune on the vocals, bang out the drums again. I've done that and it has helped but it's not an easy thing to do, trust me. I got many hard hiphop beats at 117-130 tempo that are actually when listened to mistaken for 87-93 bmp.

I also got a couple that that are like 65-71 that are like that GIMME SOME MORE style so it's whatever to me, I'm a non-conformist. I travel WAY outside the box with my beats, all my boys will tell you that.
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By aaron Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:30 am
lmfao... **** that shit, i aint about to go ninja style on my pads...

damn, is there some kind of holiday tonight or some shit... peeps are sleeeeeeping on this thread.

and ima keep bumping this until i get the anwser i want... :D

By cooocooo1 Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:19 am
I'm a little confused as to what it is you're trying to do but why do you slow the tempo down to make the sample fit into a certain amount of bars, why don't you just add more bars.
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By aaron Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:27 am
cooocooo1 wrote:I'm a little confused as to what it is you're trying to do but why do you slow the tempo down to make the sample fit into a certain amount of bars, why don't you just add more bars.


because the vocal sample ends at like 7 bars 2 beats 40 ticks

so wtf else am i suppose to do if the sample isnt a straight on bar???

lol, wtf was akai thinking, every sample/loop ends on a perfect bar???

this is a major problem for me

By elmacaco Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:18 am
uh... speed up the tempo.

By mpc3000 Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:25 am
"wtf else am i suppose to do if the sample isnt a straight on bar"

Recording the vocal at the right tempo helps to avoid all this.
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By aaron Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:29 am
um what?

i have the vocal sample at the right tempo/pitch that i want it....

But when I speed up the tempo to adjust the vocal sample within the bars..
I cant play drums because the tempo is to **** up..

And when I do the opposite, The drums sound good but the vocal sample doesnt fit........

well shit, i dont know how else to explain this.... i know someone else has ran into this problem.



*jumps off a building

By PLATINUM1 Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:15 am
Yo check it, there is no easy way around this . Pretty much your gonna have to do some type of time compression or stretch. You could try dumping them both in acid and that should work. You can also try to use recycle or some of the mpc tutor kits that are made to change the speed with out changing the pitch. Of course this is all after you record you drum track into a wav file. Before recycle was even thought of I used to take accapellas and chop them up word by word and play it back , word by word, on the tempo. Most of the time it came out pretty good. Hope this helps. holla.
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By aaron Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:25 am
Nope. Found out that...

supposed to go to edit screen and adjust "beats" and make sure the sample bpm is the same as sequence bpm....

are anwsers are anwsered lampdog

:D , ima try this out in the morning just in case though
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By Lampdog Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:27 am
Yeah, lemme know the deal, I'll try that also. I don't remember ever seeing that..
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By aaron Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:26 pm
it pretty much works... the sample has to match the same exact tempo on the sequencer, just a lot of fine-tuning on the stretch/pitch...

i think you posted a thread that had a sample calculator in it, so that should help