Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By trupro Wed May 26, 2004 7:48 pm
Yeah but uh, I know west coast folk usually drive everywhere, but if I bought a 1000, I'd have to tell all my other producers to hop on the train and lug their 2000s, XLs, 60s, and 60IIs over to the studio, cus I wouldn't be compatible. With an XL, They can bring me a disk!
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By djadonis206 Wed May 26, 2004 10:24 pm
Serious question (I should probably start another thread)

but is there really a sound difference from a MPC file and a WAVE file? I know waves take up more disc space in the 2000xl (had one for years)

I can't hear it

TruPo - we usually bounce everything to Wave at the crib so it's compatible with more than just the MPC's but other samplers and editors without having to batch convert stuff

Could that be why the 1000 doesn't support Akai files? Curious
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By trupro Thu May 27, 2004 5:28 pm
.WAV is some type of 'lossless' compression. .snd files must be even more compressed. I mean, all raw audio files that are full 44.1 bandwidth are pretty good. I sure as hell can't tell.
I think any difference in sampler quality or it's unique character comes from the sampling engine and the a/d-d/a converters. Like, the SP1200 is what, 8 bit? with pretty high end converters from that era. Whereas, the original MPC2000 has 16 bit converters, but really they not that high quality. The 1000 is definately geared so you don't gotta convert everything. Akai peeped how thier proprietary sound format was losing them customers in the the era of softsamplersynthallinone solutions. But yo, I'm back on some harware ish!

By Toecutter Thu May 27, 2004 9:41 pm
The 1000 is supposed to be able to read your program and sequence files but you need to convert your sounds to wav. It doesn't load up your parameters for the program like your filter and attack/decay and stuff, because that stuff is under different windows in the 1k os. If you have software to convert the snd to wav then I guess you are in business. Plus, if he's producing on the mpc1k it's not definite that he will need to be trading files with mpc2k and xl users, maybe he just needs it for himself, and he can have collaborators come to his studio. If worse comes to worse, the mpc1k IS small and PORTABLE, so he can just take it to anyone else's studio. If he wont' miss the timestretch on his XL (if he does he can timestretch with software) then it wont' necesarily be a bad idea to switch over to a 1k. I contemplated this switch myself from my old 2k but I just decided not to do it, YET.

By Dazil Thu May 27, 2004 11:39 pm
ive been wondering on how the lcd screen looks like on the mpc1000,i was messing with 1 in gc and man it was wack,shyt looked all blurry...is this tru ?


can u hit me back up with a responce,thanks

By LabWorkz Fri May 28, 2004 12:43 am
Dazil wrote:ive been wondering on how the lcd screen looks like on the mpc1000,i was messing with 1 in gc and man it was wack,shyt looked all blurry...is this tru ?


can u hit me back up with a responce,thanks


~I have the 1k the screen is nice a lil bit bigger then the XL's screen! Its not blurry lol peeps be sayin some off da wall sh!t sometimez! :roll: U can adjust the contrast of the 1k screen by pressin shift + turnin the data knob! :wink:
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By pipecock Fri May 28, 2004 3:07 am
2 zips?!

so the best thing for me and my 2000XL is to get a usb zip installed in the mac g4, an external zip for the mpc and downloading a program for the mac and the mpc?

now what?

maybe i can setup a scenario... maybe that'll help.

i have a 4 old records i found in a thrift store. i want to make a beat out of them but at the same time take those sounds from the records and archive them in my computer....(if that's possible) where are these going to be stored for future use... i don't want to have put a **** record on every time i want to experiment with sounds off vinyl.
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By djadonis206 Fri May 28, 2004 5:44 am
Dazil wrote:ive been wondering on how the lcd screen looks like on the mpc1000,i was messing with 1 in gc and man it was wack,shyt looked all blurry...is this tru ?


can u hit me back up with a responce,thanks


Every thing is Guitar Center used to be blurry until I stopped smokin' chronic :P

By LabWorkz Fri May 28, 2004 5:53 am
djadonis206 wrote:
Dazil wrote:ive been wondering on how the lcd screen looks like on the mpc1000,i was messing with 1 in gc and man it was wack,shyt looked all blurry...is this tru ?


can u hit me back up with a responce,thanks


Every thing is Guitar Center used to be blurry until I stopped smokin' chronic :P



~LOL! 8) The chronic dont fu@k up my site! :o
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By Cheech Fri May 28, 2004 6:32 am
pipecock wrote:2 zips?!
maybe i can setup a scenario... maybe that'll help.

i have a 4 old records i found in a thrift store. i want to make a beat out of them but at the same time take those sounds from the records and archive them in my computer....(if that's possible) where are these going to be stored for future use... i don't want to have put a **** record on every time i want to experiment with sounds off vinyl
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When you buy the zip drive you can save those sounds to a zip disk, and everytime you turn your mpc on you just load the sounds from the disk. You can also transfer them to your computer via the same disk and keep them stored there. Whatever tickles your fancy.


so the best thing for me and my 2000XL is to get a usb zip installed in the mac g4, an external zip for the mpc and downloading a program for the mac and the mpc?


I don't know that much about the computer stuff, but yes you do need some kind of program for that. And for the mpc, just get the latest OS (1.14) from the AKAI site and you're set.
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By pipecock Fri May 28, 2004 1:20 pm
Cheech wrote:
pipecock wrote:2 zips?!
maybe i can setup a scenario... maybe that'll help.

i have a 4 old records i found in a thrift store. i want to make a beat out of them but at the same time take those sounds from the records and archive them in my computer....(if that's possible) where are these going to be stored for future use... i don't want to have put a **** record on every time i want to experiment with sounds off vinyl
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When you buy the zip drive you can save those sounds to a zip disk, and everytime you turn your mpc on you just load the sounds from the disk. You can also transfer them to your computer via the same disk and keep them stored there. Whatever tickles your fancy.


so the best thing for me and my 2000XL is to get a usb zip installed in the mac g4, an external zip for the mpc and downloading a program for the mac and the mpc?


I don't know that much about the computer stuff, but yes you do need some kind of program for that. And for the mpc, just get the latest OS (1.14) from the AKAI site and you're set.
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By cyrus Sat May 29, 2004 12:27 am
this is what i do with the vinyl situation above. First ill find the vinyl. Turn on my mpc2000xl. Load up an existing drum program. Get a simple pattern going. Then ill search the vinyl for samples i like (whether they match the drums or not) but usually ill keep the drums on so i can kind of test out some samples on the vinyl. Ya know, cue them up, and cut them in. "cut them in" is a dj term, anyways it means play the turn table over another beat, in this case, my mpc drum pattern.

When im ready to sample the sound, i make sure both the volume knob and Rec knob are turned all the way down. So that i dont get wierd feed back and pop my speakers. Next i go to sample screen. get the levels right, by playing the record and adjusting the rec, and volume knobs. Next i cue up the record. Hit sample and let the vinyl go.

Then i go about my chopping.

*****SAVE: save the program with the samples after i make a beat with them. Ill go to trim, and try to get rid of the excess space i dont need on some of my samples. But ALWAYS try to keep the largest amount of phrase you sample, even if you only use a small part of it. This way you can always referance back to it and if the beat you make needs some more adjustments.

Then i save the program and sequence. First i go to load, and create a new directory (folder) name it the name of the song i just made. Then i open it, then i save the program and sounds, and the sequence file. before i save i make sure to make the names the same as the folder-in case i have more than one program loaded i can tell what is what.

NExt i may do a test load. I.e. before i turn the mpc off, i will reload my saved program, just to make sure i got everything before my work is lost.

When its all done, i take the zip out, then i go to my computer, pop it in, then drag the folder that has the sounds, program and seq. to my mpcbackup folder. finished.


GOOD POINTS: 1. I know you said that you dont want to have to re look at the vinyl agian after you get the samples. well first thing, if this is the case, make sure you make a note, of what the name of the records are. Put these notes with your song name, etc. that way say you make a bangin beat, and you sell it, but it turns out you need to make sure samples are cleared, well your gonna need the record. Or you make a beat, but want a sound you remembered with that record, but for some reason didnt sample it, and you need the name of the record!!!!!!!

2. revist those records, because your ideas of good samples change constantly. This is why i dont mind keeping records on hand and not "archiving them" so to speak. Yeah i know if i wont be inspired by the record, i dont look at it, but sometimes a revist is your best friend. "whoa, i cant beleive i didnt see that before".

3. Make 1 program just for various samples. Instead of building a "drum kit" with samples. Build a master sample program kit. Go through one day and just sample like crazy, but dont make beats (unless it just has to be done) try to keep as much as the original sample. BUt be sure to take note of the record and the sample!!!! cause ive done this and wanted more of the first part of the sample, but didnt get it first time trough and forgot what record it was so the sample was usless!!!!! if you do this program thing, besure to flip the samples later and dont forget to, sometimes when all you have is the sample you dont think of the sample in the context "this is a chunk from a song" you dont want to straight up gank the song, but this can happen id you dont hear the whole song and later go to the sample and forget to flip it. ya know?

4. just remember that when you sample, your idea of the sample can change, and you may want to flip it better later.

5. format the disk to your computer. im not sure what anyone else recomends. but most of the time the computer wont read the disk if its mpc format, but the mpc will read a pc disk. I m not sure if im doing something wrong, but formated on the mpc i always **** shit up.

6.if you want to edit your sounds on the computer, you will have to manually save each sample one by one as .WAV format. , then put them on the zip, then into the computer. or get a converter program like chicken system, that can read .snd.

7. some people sample into the computer, then edit it, then put it on zip disk and load it in the mpc. works nice, but you have to have a good sound card otherwise its pointless. check out the new emu sampling system if you liek this idea

bTW i know im ramblin but just thought id give you some ideas.
peace!!!!
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By jonloc Sat May 29, 2004 7:30 am
pipecock wrote:it will probably make my life easier.... right?

yeah.... i am a noobie with a new 2000xl and a mac g4 and digi001.
it seems like the 1000 can do everything the 2000 can except transfer files seemlessly back and forth.

so if anyone wants to make a good case for me to keep my 2000xl... please do so!
the whole usb connectivity thing has me thrilled.... it seems like such great idea!

thanks!

make a case and make a break, whatever... do what the f you need. f the 1000 and the 2kxl. thats not what makes music......Im drunk, pardon me. :evil:
By LabWorkz Sat May 29, 2004 4:29 pm
jonloc wrote:
pipecock wrote:it will probably make my life easier.... right?

yeah.... i am a noobie with a new 2000xl and a mac g4 and digi001.
it seems like the 1000 can do everything the 2000 can except transfer files seemlessly back and forth.

so if anyone wants to make a good case for me to keep my 2000xl... please do so!
the whole usb connectivity thing has me thrilled.... it seems like such great idea!

thanks!

make a case and make a break, whatever... do what the f you need. f the 1000 and the 2kxl. thats not what makes music......Im drunk, pardon me. :evil:


~LMAO! :lol: