Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By pawn Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:17 am
This is the most confusing feature i have run into while using my mpc. i understand the basic that it puts the beats on beat, but im having trouble getting the beats where i want them and basically understanding the function as a whole.
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By dubmunkey Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:39 am
it lets you look at every single increment of your sequence and allows you to do some very fine editing including be able to set the exact placement, velocity level, duration and att or dec or pitch for every single note in your sequence- i simply could not do with out it-


greg
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By Lampdog Thu Oct 02, 2003 3:26 pm
I use it alot actually. I like to control my notes and see where hey are going, the decay and everthing else DUB mentioned. I couldn't do without it either.. It's a little tedious yeah but wouldn't you like to have COMPLETE control over your note placement/events rather than not?
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By Swissmaster Cheese Thu Oct 02, 2003 4:55 pm
I think that unless you have had ALOTTTT of practice, you wont be ble to fully make beats with just the step editor alone...I think this feature is jsut for fine tuning the placement of your notes and whatnot......What I do is first bang out a rhythm and then consult the step editor to tweak those errant notes......this has to be one of the most important features on the machine....I just turn on the auto increment feature when I wanna make some nice drum rolls....

By pawn Thu Oct 02, 2003 10:49 pm
i know itll be very hard but i cant explain how greatly appreciated itd be.... how do you use it....i study and study the section in the manual but it just fails to really explain how to use it at least in terms i understand.
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By Lampdog Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:00 pm
You should make a basic easy seq then go into STEP and see where you placed your note. That's the easiest way to see where you actually hit the pads in the sequence. Play around with the volume, tune, decay, filter and everything in that same screen and you will get the hang of it when u do it enough. Place the cursor on everything in that screen and try to change stuff in there. It won't happen over night but you will get it..
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By Lampdog Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:12 pm
Find out what BARS BEATS and CLOCKS are.

Your main screen has like:

001:02:96 running so that would be 1st bar, 2nd beat and 96th clock.

4 beats in a bar
96 clocks in a beat.

You can place a hit/event in any of the clocks in that bar. That's what
STEP is basically letting you control, WHERE your hits/events are placed, and more. Hope that clears things up a little.

Pg 64 in the 2kxl manual if you haven't seen it already..

By mpc3000 Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:03 am
"I think that unless you have had ALOTTTT of practice, you wont be ble to fully make beats with just the step editor alone..."

I disagree. There are non-Hiphop genres that use the MPC step-edit exclusively. There are even many `step-edit only` sequencers on the market. There people use them right out of the box without a lot of practice.

I personnally use the step-edit a LOT. I never write music in front of the MPC, but rather write it in my head when I out driving/shopping/walking. When I go into the studio and turn on the MPC, I already know exactly what bar.beat.tick every single sound is going to go. This never took any sort of practice.
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By Swissmaster Cheese Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:33 am
mpc3000 wrote:"I think that unless you have had ALOTTTT of practice, you wont be ble to fully make beats with just the step editor alone..."

I disagree. There are non-Hiphop genres that use the MPC step-edit exclusively. There are even many `step-edit only` sequencers on the market. There people use them right out of the box without a lot of practice.

I personnally use the step-edit a LOT. I never write music in front of the MPC, but rather write it in my head when I out driving/shopping/walking. When I go into the studio and turn on the MPC, I already know exactly what bar.beat.tick every single sound is going to go. This never took any sort of practice.


I feel you....It just seems so overwhelming trying to sometimes I mean to get that feel I want.....
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By dubmunkey Fri Oct 03, 2003 9:32 am
for funkier and looser styles like breakbeat and dnb ill bang the pads first then edit in step eidtor- but if im making house or techno i may use step editor first to set up my 4/4 bass drums (so they are uniform accross the rhythm) and then go back to pads to tap out a rhythm....

either way i always return to step edit to tweak- its essential for tight and flowing beats....

greg

By max Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:02 pm
"There are even many `step-edit only` sequencers on the market."

Thats right, so if that's the way you wanna work, get one of those, not an MPC. Step edit can be useful, but only for "details". It's not meant to be used as the main edition mode.
But first of all, it is important to understand well how the sequences are strucured in the MPC ti use the step edit efficiently.
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By bboutit Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:28 pm
use it to tweak my sequences, I normally don't start off with it. But like others said it depends on the music.
By sirreal Fri Oct 03, 2003 9:56 pm
What auto increment feature do you speak of...are you referring to the quantize or note correct (timing) function? Just curious... :?:
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By Lampdog Fri Oct 03, 2003 10:17 pm
auto step increment pg 64 2kxl manual

By mpc3000 Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:09 am
"It's not meant to be used as the main edition mode"

So you say you know what is best for the rest of us? Probably so since you apparently could read the mind of the designer that put the step-edit in there in the first place.