MPC 2000 worth $475?

1kjjos > 2kxl > 2k.
I haven't yet decided what mpc to get. I'll have to research more than what i've done up until now, don't wanna rush into anything because it could easily lead me into getting something I'm not fully satisfied with(happened before, it sucks).


why would you think that
That thing with getting sounds on it was just a feeling. It's more like me not knowing all the ways to get the sounds on it. I know i could sample them with my turntable and use zip disks or floppy disks if I'm right?


This is false
I have forgot about mpcstuff, they are simply trying to make customers buy things they really don't need and they are to overpriced.

Are you trying to be a pro (make money, a living), just a hobby, or experimenting?

Do you see yourself spending $1000, $10,000, $50,000 or getting gear from manufacturers for free?

Cheers,
Ian

Ian Canefire wrote:Are you trying to be a pro (make money, a living), just a hobby, or experimenting?

Do you see yourself spending $1000, $10,000, $50,000 or getting gear from manufacturers for free?

Cheers,
Ian

I don't see how this question is of importance to this thread.

ChingyDi wrote:why would you think that
That thing with getting sounds on it was just a feeling. It's more like me not knowing all the ways to get the sounds on it. I know i could sample them with my turntable and use zip disks or floppy disks if I'm right?

There are only two ways to get sounds into a MPC.

Sample directly into the MPC. Example: Turntable -> Mixer -> MPC.
or

Sample into computer then transfer wav files. Example Turntable -> Mixer -> Computer -> MPC via media (Floppy Disk, CF, Zip, etc)

Each method has its own advantages and disadvantages. Sampling directly into the MPC will use the MPC internal A/D converters to process the sounds. Sampling with the computer with use the computer's A/D converters and whatever sampling algorithm your software is using.

Choosing the right MPC should be determined by your workflow. If you are editing samples on your computer to play back in your MPC it will be easier to incorporate a MPC with a USB port (MPC 1000,2500,5000) to transfer the files that way.

MPCHunter wrote:

ChingyDi wrote:why would you think that
That thing with getting sounds on it was just a feeling. It's more like me not knowing all the ways to get the sounds on it. I know i could sample them with my turntable and use zip disks or floppy disks if I'm right?

There are only two ways to get sounds into a MPC.

Sample directly into the MPC. Example: Turntable -> Mixer -> MPC.
or

Sample into computer then transfer wav files. Example Turntable -> Mixer -> Computer -> MPC via media (Floppy Disk, CF, Zip, etc)

Each method has its own advantages and disadvantages. Sampling directly into the MPC will use the MPC internal A/D converters to process the sounds. Sampling with the computer with use the computer's A/D converters and whatever sampling algorithm your software is using.

Choosing the right MPC should be determined by your workflow. If you are editing samples on your computer to play back in your MPC it will be easier to incorporate a MPC with a USB port (MPC 1000,2500,5000) to transfer the files that way.

When i have everything set I'll use my turntable and sample straight into my workstation, chop them up and edit them in it. The drums I'll edit and play on the mpc. I have not decided what way I'm going to go about getting sounds on the mpc I'll get, but it would we one of the older ones(2k/2kxl).
If I'll sequence on the mpc or workstation, i don't know yet. I have to try both out properly and then decide which one i like best.

Lampdog wrote:If those are your choices, 2k and 2kxl, you'd be better off getting a 2kxl.
Main reason being 2k classic only allows 1 program active at a time, max 64 samples on the pads.

2kxl allows 4 programs active at the same time, bank a, b, c, d x 4 = 256 samples.

Trying to save you from making a mistake you'll regret later on here. Especially when/if you get into keyboard multisamples later on, this will play a big part.

I'm really glad you said that, and because of that I'll rather get the 2kxl than the 2k. I haven't yet looked into the other mpc's, so I'm gladly open for other recommendations aswell. Thanks.

And what is all that about the mpc's having different sound? I have read that drums sound bla bla bla on the 2k, they sound thinner on the 1k, etc. I feel kinda skeptical to this. Isn't it just how the producer handles his drums? I haven't got the chance to try and check this out myself, and probably won't either.

Lampdog wrote:I have 2kxl and 4k, they both sound good to me, I am able to make either one sound punchy. People wanna be nit picky and just have something to say imo.

Like I said, 1k > 2kxl > 2k if that's what your wondering. Me, I'm staying with my 4k as long as I can.

And where would you place the 4k like you compared the 1k, 2kxl and 2k?

Do you feel limited in one way or another when using the 4k compared to the 2kxl?

The 4k is one of the mpc's i yet have to look deep into.

Lampdog wrote:I went from 8 years of 2kxl to 4k a few years ago. 4k is MUCH greater/deeper than 2kxl.

I'll look into the 4k and see if that one can be something for me aswell. You seem so confident with the 4k, I'll hit you back on it if it is something i can't get the answer on myself.

Lampdog wrote:If you don't need the features and don't think you are going to grow into them then don't get it.

Yes ofc i won't if i don't need the features. I'm thinking the xl gives me what i need for now but I want to be sure that the mpc i choose will still be giving me what i need many years ahead.

@ ChingyDi The 4000 is the big daddy....and I mean BIG.

@Lampdog, I don't get why you are doing all this politicing, instead of just telling him to get a 4000. lol

Before I got in tho the MPC's I did a large amount of research....and it goes a little something like this (Hit it):
In order... >
HIP HOP - 4000, 3000, 2000, 2500, 1000, 500, 60, 5000
Dance - 4000, 5000, 2500, 1000, 500, 2000, 3000, 60


The 4000 is easy, heavy, best overall feature set, some say it has bad pads(I disagree), great timing.
5000 has modern things, a nice 3 osc synth, knobs, bugs, nice features, funky timing(so tested by some)
3000 is great, expensive, great timing
2000xl is great but showing its age, nice pads, screen problems
60 limited memory, old, not cheap for what it does, fun cause it makes you think.
2500, 1000, 500 you need another OS in it or else you are using a very limited sampler, portable.

This is the quick and dirty summary. All of these units are fine for making music, depends on the talent working them. You may not need all of the functionality of the 4000 and 5000 or the versions running the JJOS. You may be fine with what Akai gives you in the 2500, 1000 or 500.
I recommend the 4000, 3000, or the 2500(in its plain Akai form).Or you get a box sampler(S950, Z4, Z8, 3200xl) and the MPD(or Korg Pad Control) I have not used JJOS so therefore I cannot comment on it. People in here rave about JJOS.
Peace
Ian

Ian Canefire wrote:...
I recommend the 4000, 3000, or the 2500(in its plain Akai form).Or you get a box sampler(S950, Z4, Z8, 3200xl) and the MPD(or Korg Pad Control) I have not used JJOS so therefore I cannot comment on it. People in here rave about JJOS.
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No, those "box samplers" don't have sequencer built-in, so connecting MPD pad to those (via MIDI) means you can only trigger those samplers in real time.