Ian Canefire wrote:@Lampdog, I don't get why you are doing all this politicing, instead of just telling him to get a 4000. lol
Ian Canefire wrote:@ ChingyDi The 4000 is the big daddy....and I mean BIG.
@Lampdog, I don't get why you are doing all this politicing, instead of just telling him to get a 4000. lol
Before I got in tho the MPC's I did a large amount of research....and it goes a little something like this (Hit it):
In order... >
HIP HOP - 4000, 3000, 2000, 2500, 1000, 500, 60, 5000
Dance - 4000, 5000, 2500, 1000, 500, 2000, 3000, 60
The 4000 is easy, heavy, best overall feature set, some say it has bad pads(I disagree), great timing.
5000 has modern things, a nice 3 osc synth, knobs, bugs, nice features, funky timing(so tested by some)
3000 is great, expensive, great timing
2000xl is great but showing its age, nice pads, screen problems
60 limited memory, old, not cheap for what it does, fun cause it makes you think.
2500, 1000, 500 you need another OS in it or else you are using a very limited sampler, portable.
This is the quick and dirty summary. All of these units are fine for making music, depends on the talent working them. You may not need all of the functionality of the 4000 and 5000 or the versions running the JJOS. You may be fine with what Akai gives you in the 2500, 1000 or 500.
I recommend the 4000, 3000, or the 2500(in its plain Akai form).Or you get a box sampler(S950, Z4, Z8, 3200xl) and the MPD(or Korg Pad Control) I have not used JJOS so therefore I cannot comment on it. People in here rave about JJOS.
Peace
Ian
ChingyDi wrote:Ian Canefire wrote:@ ChingyDi The 4000 is the big daddy....and I mean BIG.
@Lampdog, I don't get why you are doing all this politicing, instead of just telling him to get a 4000. lol
Before I got in tho the MPC's I did a large amount of research....and it goes a little something like this (Hit it):
In order... >
HIP HOP - 4000, 3000, 2000, 2500, 1000, 500, 60, 5000
Dance - 4000, 5000, 2500, 1000, 500, 2000, 3000, 60
The 4000 is easy, heavy, best overall feature set, some say it has bad pads(I disagree), great timing.
5000 has modern things, a nice 3 osc synth, knobs, bugs, nice features, funky timing(so tested by some)
3000 is great, expensive, great timing
2000xl is great but showing its age, nice pads, screen problems
60 limited memory, old, not cheap for what it does, fun cause it makes you think.
2500, 1000, 500 you need another OS in it or else you are using a very limited sampler, portable.
This is the quick and dirty summary. All of these units are fine for making music, depends on the talent working them. You may not need all of the functionality of the 4000 and 5000 or the versions running the JJOS. You may be fine with what Akai gives you in the 2500, 1000 or 500.
I recommend the 4000, 3000, or the 2500(in its plain Akai form).Or you get a box sampler(S950, Z4, Z8, 3200xl) and the MPD(or Korg Pad Control) I have not used JJOS so therefore I cannot comment on it. People in here rave about JJOS.
Peace
Ian
Thanks for that big reply.
I will first have to look into the 4000 deeply before i make any decision. I don't like rushing into anything, will rather take my time with my research and then get something i know I'd like.
The 3000 is kinda expensive for me i think because I'm also getting a workstation, and some kind of control surface/mixer that i can use to mix my beats aswell as my raps with the beats when i have recorded them
Does anybody have a solution to this: I want to record my raps in logic pro, if i don't do that i feel i bought my mac to use logic for nothing. So i want to have some kind of control surface that i can use to mix my beats. You know like in professional studios where they have that big surface, ofc I'm not goint to have something big like that, but something smaller that acts like it. Then i don't need to look at the screen because i really hate it after a couple of hours. So any gear or other suggestions?
Metatron72 wrote:ChingyDi wrote:Ian Canefire wrote:@ ChingyDi The 4000 is the big daddy....and I mean BIG.
@Lampdog, I don't get why you are doing all this politicing, instead of just telling him to get a 4000. lol
Before I got in tho the MPC's I did a large amount of research....and it goes a little something like this (Hit it):
In order... >
HIP HOP - 4000, 3000, 2000, 2500, 1000, 500, 60, 5000
Dance - 4000, 5000, 2500, 1000, 500, 2000, 3000, 60
The 4000 is easy, heavy, best overall feature set, some say it has bad pads(I disagree), great timing.
5000 has modern things, a nice 3 osc synth, knobs, bugs, nice features, funky timing(so tested by some)
3000 is great, expensive, great timing
2000xl is great but showing its age, nice pads, screen problems
60 limited memory, old, not cheap for what it does, fun cause it makes you think.
2500, 1000, 500 you need another OS in it or else you are using a very limited sampler, portable.
This is the quick and dirty summary. All of these units are fine for making music, depends on the talent working them. You may not need all of the functionality of the 4000 and 5000 or the versions running the JJOS. You may be fine with what Akai gives you in the 2500, 1000 or 500.
I recommend the 4000, 3000, or the 2500(in its plain Akai form).Or you get a box sampler(S950, Z4, Z8, 3200xl) and the MPD(or Korg Pad Control) I have not used JJOS so therefore I cannot comment on it. People in here rave about JJOS.
Peace
Ian
Thanks for that big reply.
I will first have to look into the 4000 deeply before i make any decision. I don't like rushing into anything, will rather take my time with my research and then get something i know I'd like.
The 3000 is kinda expensive for me i think because I'm also getting a workstation, and some kind of control surface/mixer that i can use to mix my beats aswell as my raps with the beats when i have recorded them
Does anybody have a solution to this: I want to record my raps in logic pro, if i don't do that i feel i bought my mac to use logic for nothing. So i want to have some kind of control surface that i can use to mix my beats. You know like in professional studios where they have that big surface, ofc I'm not goint to have something big like that, but something smaller that acts like it. Then i don't need to look at the screen because i really hate it after a couple of hours. So any gear or other suggestions?
The types of surfaces you alluded to are quite expensive. Euphonix is like the Rolls Royce of that stuff. I think those work with Logic but Pro Tools is the main target of those devices. You could look into a used Mackie control surface that would be cheaper and has visual feedback on LCD strips. If you can live without LCD's there's the Behringer BCF2000 at around 200USD. It's not bad for what amounts to the absolute poor man's version of the more expensive control surfaces. Behringer even has a small widget you can install that will emulate the LCD feedback on a floating small GUI. The fact the Mackie control protocol is widely supported gives you a few options. I have to double check but I believe the BCF comes stock with a Logic preset as well.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan05/a ... ollers.htm
Ian Canefire wrote:@ JVC...I know that. I figured he would record what he was triggering into some other recorder, a DAW or use the ASQ10 when using the box samplers.
Cheers,
Ian
Ian Canefire wrote:ChingyDi....Sir, when this is all said and done years from now you might be surprised at the amount of gear you will have gone through. You will learn that different units will give you different sounds. Don't think you will only use one machine.
In fact I don't think I have ever heard of a pro who only used one sound source. Take a listen to what vinyljunkie07 creates with his box samplers. The various box samplers made by akai have unique sounds.
Anyway if you can carve out a career in music with only an asr10 as yor sampler, then rock on. Blaze that trail.
Cheers,
Ian
Lampdog wrote:1k w/ with a decent midi keyboard to trigger your keyboard samples.
One sampler can provide endless sounds, mpc.
Audio interface with at least enough inputs/outputs to handle your mpc and a mic.
Some audio interfaces have a normal mixer surface on top as well if you want the hands on faders and knobs.
Phonic Helix Board 18 Universal USB-Firewire Audio Interface Mixer
Alesis multimix
You can plug up your mic to either one of these and record vocals into your daw and beats from the 1k on the other tracks.
Lampdog wrote:That's your choice. Look into both and see which one has the features and options you want.
You have GOT to research more or you'll end up losing more and more money buying stuff and not exactly sure WHY your buying stuff.
