Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By DirtyKics Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:25 am
im hoping to to this 2kxl this week from guitar center but it comes with the floppy drive. it has the memory and 8 outs but is there any sonic value to using floppies? luckly i got some that i stole from radioshack years ago as an employee so requardless of what ima start with those.

the only thing ive ever heard is storage which i know is only 1.44mb but the card reader has to wait till the new year!

that book Behind the Beat everyone with an mp w/ the exception of a few relies on floppies! clue me in...peace
By bedouin Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:34 am
Removable magnetic media is unreliable. The drives are unreliable. it's just not fun whether we're talking about floppies of their bastard cousin zip disks. Avoid.

I've had a computer since 1985. A while back I went to a drawer full of floppies that were merely 10 years old at the time; half of them would not read.

1.44mb? Yeah -- you can make it work. Just like folks made limited sampling time work on their SPs. Do you want to put yourself through the hassle? I can't speak for everyone, but I can have a 15 second sample that easily goes over 1.44mb on my lowly 500. Or let's say you're lazy like me. I might chop stuff up and just extract it to another sample, and then I save that original -- unchopped sample along with my project incase I need it later.

What's really drawing you to the 200XL anyway? I understand some people have a lust for it and I won't knock them, but if you're just starting out save yourself some trouble and get a 1000 or something modern.
By DirtyKics Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:44 am
i was actually about to snag a used 1000 until they sold it. dude to me about the 2kxl for 650 so i was like f it gimme a couple days to come up withthe doe.

ive been making beats for awhile using an roland sp606 but that shyt is low on tracks and voices. i ,ake it work but when i reach a point where i wanna go farther im like ehh.

so right now its more about cash than anything. if i could id get an new 1k or save a few more and cop the 2500. i got to see that in action @ a prefuse 73 concert which was nuts front row style
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By Lampdog Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:36 am
compare 2kxl vs 1000 or 2500, you REALLY should hold off and get 1000 or 2500. Trust me.
You'll kick yourself later on when you figure out the capabilities of the 2kxl. Save the loot and get what
you REALLY want the FIRST time and get it. Leave the 2kxl in the dust and get better.

Don't be like the girl below, lol.


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By mr.vision Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:13 pm
if you are trying to archive your work in a way that you can physically sort though beats, floppys are what you want to be **** with. i use floppys and the downside is that since they are dated technology, they are often unreliable and lose alot of memory which sucks when you spend some time on something. just go with what you can afford man. so what if other mpc's have more features. all you need is what is offered by the 2kxl. much love.
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By Lampdog Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:29 pm
and 2kxl offers an atapi 40 pin connector on the motherboard for atapi removable storage devices = that equals
an atapi mcd drive..... :D If you can find one these days :oops:
By DirtyKics Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:54 pm
i see what u gettin @ and im still gunnin for that 2kxl only because its raw in a way that having a ton of features wont provide. i do like the 1k but that 1k w/ upgrades is whats not so friendly since im unemployed. idk i still gotta think on the topic...
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By GRMM D Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:55 am
floppy's aint as bad as people say but it depends on what your saving. if u got some 8 bar loop u took st8 from a record then yea your gon need a good 3-4 for just that sample alone. ur better off chopping that up and discarding what u aint using. the key thing to saving to floppy is triming your sample's and discarding. u trim your sample's right and u'd be suprised how much sh!t u could get on one floppy. the only thing i hate about having a floppy drive is loading sh!t from different disk when it comes to makin a drum track. i've never had problems with floppy's that are unreliable except for that one time when i spilled beer on my desk and lost a real dope beat. even the others dried out and worked fine.
By cunoSvaa Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:21 am
hahahahaa floppies are the best!!!!

"time is money"
shoot messing with floppies i should be PAID!
By bedouin Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:53 am
DirtyKics wrote:so do u make like a select # of disk for just one song or do u have like a kicks, or snare disk?


You can really organize it however you find convenient, but at the end of the day it's just not worth it when modern alternatives exist. No one is nostalgic about floppies; you don't hear guys saying, oh man -- I really miss 8" floppy disks! Or, oh man -- I really miss waiting a half hour to load a 150kb game off of a cassette -- that was awesome!
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By Lampdog Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:54 am
You can organize how ever you want. Try one way and if you don't like it try another way.
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By Lampdog Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:55 am
beat me too it, lol.
By roxstar Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:49 pm
Floppies are old technology. 1.44mb is just horrible by todays standards. The MPC2000XL has 2mb stock, so really, your going to be struggling and waiting for the floppies to load/save and hopefully, you only need one floppy to save your music.
At the very least, I would get an internal zip drive, but even zip disks are geting harder to find nowadays. The price of a used XL and a used 1000 are minimal, but the tradeoff is well worth it. Just for the simple fact that the XL doesn't have normalize, EQ, and compression make it worth the difference, you can REALLY hear the difference. It's not like the old MPC2000 vs MPC3000 comparisons, the difference is VERY noticable..night and day. I LOVE my XL, but my MPC500 is blowing that out the box (I hate the small screen) but for a machine to work on daily, I wouldn't look lower than the 1000/2500 or the 500 if you can get used to the small size. I've seen used 2500's for less than $1000. Parts for the XL are getting hard to find, even the RAM is getting obsolete. When I go into a computer shop and ask for an IDE device, they look at me like, "What you gonna need this for??" They think I'm still using a computer with Windows 3.1 or something!
Compact flash/internal harddrive and USB is the move you need to make. It's about to be 2009, leave the floppy drives alone. If you do get the XL, try to get one with a CF drive. You can get these all day everyday on ebay for $500.