Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By globalfirm Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:36 pm
How do I have to connect the mpc 2000 to the Macbook Pro to get best quality sound :?:
and how do I have to connect it to the Macbook Pro to get made (acceptable) quality :?:


I know that there are IOMEGA Zip drives with a USB. Can I save the MPC 2000 file onto the macbook pro like that?

I bought a soundcardcabel and audio-recorded a beat with logic and connected the MPC with the mac. The quality is terrible.
I could buy a XMidi (Emu or Cakewark) for 30 € or a Tascam US 122 for 140€ and audio record beats similarly as I did with my soundcardcabel.
But will this be the best quality solution?
So how can I transform the pure sound of the MPC2000 beat onto my Macbook Pro without loosing on quality :?: Propably it is to put the actual MPC 2000 file to the mac without recording, but how? Or maybe the recording would be best quality plus it´s easy. But how? What does say your expert knowledge experience :?:

How can I transform the pure sound of the MPC2000 beat onto my Macbook Pro without loosing on quality :?:

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By globalfirm Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:52 pm
Thanks. (Aside: The MPC 2000 has a unique sound. I like it without a doubt most of all MPC´s. The 60 has good drums, the sp1200 a nice and determined sound design, the 3000 has a beautyfull groove but the drums don´t hit so hard ( similar to the 2000XL). But the MPC 2000´s sound design is modern and good. The other MPC´s don´t have got this sound effect.)

How about other computers and how about a direct recording option?
There is a best solution.
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By Ronin Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:47 pm
globalfirm wrote:How do I have to connect the mpc 2000 to the Macbook Pro to get best quality sound :?:
and how do I have to connect it to the Macbook Pro to get made (acceptable) quality :?:


I know that there are IOMEGA Zip drives with a USB. Can I save the MPC 2000 file onto the macbook pro like that?

I bought a soundcardcabel and audio-recorded a beat with logic and connected the MPC with the mac. The quality is terrible.
I could buy a XMidi (Emu or Cakewark) for 30 € or a Tascam US 122 for 140€ and audio record beats similarly as I did with my soundcardcabel.
But will this be the best quality solution?
So how can I transform the pure sound of the MPC2000 beat onto my Macbook Pro without loosing on quality :?: Propably it is to put the actual MPC 2000 file to the mac without recording, but how? Or maybe the recording would be best quality plus it´s easy. But how? What does say your expert knowledge experience :?:

How can I transform the pure sound of the MPC2000 beat onto my Macbook Pro without loosing on quality :?:

(My website:)
http://www.myspace.com/globalfirm


I do not know if Lord Toranaga is being serious or joking,

but in order to get sound into your mac book, I would suggest getting a firewire audio interface and a mixer. you run your mpc2000 into your mixer, from your mixer your run audio jacks into your audio interface, from your audio interface your run firewire into your mac.

any more questions feel free to PM me
By roxstar Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:20 pm
Digital out of the MPC to the line-in (Digital) on your Macbook. The line-in is analog and digital.
I'm quite sure if you simple went Stereo out of your MPC into the (Analog) line in, you probably wouldn't notice much of a difference either.
By Lord Toranaga Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:46 pm
roxstar wrote:Digital out of the MPC to the line-in (Digital) on your Macbook. The line-in is analog and digital.
I'm quite sure if you simple went Stereo out of your MPC into the (Analog) line in, you probably wouldn't notice much of a difference either.



Digital output on MPC is spdif. Digital input on MAC is TOSlink (mini). While roxstar's advice is spot on, the O.P. would need a format converter to take advantage of the digital specification.
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By globalfirm Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:52 pm
thank you for the answers.
I´m thinking about it if the simple direct soundcardcable without interface wouldn´t be the best sounding solution, no interference and it works both ways, but only audio recording and sampling, no data sending.

I just can use USB connections on the macbook pro. It would be interesting to find out if and then what usb audio interface and also what mic would harmonize the most with the mpc 2000 and the macbook pro. there could be before and after sound tests.
By JVC Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:44 pm
globalfirm wrote:Thanks. (Aside: The MPC 2000 has a unique sound. I like it without a doubt most of all MPC´s. The 60 has good drums, the sp1200 a nice and determined sound design, the 3000 has a beautyfull groove but the drums don´t hit so hard ( similar to the 2000XL). But the MPC 2000´s sound design is modern and good. The other MPC´s don´t have got this sound effect.)


This may be off the topic (or old topic), but are MPC-2000 Classic and MPC-2000XL sound different? I've owned classic, (now I have XL instead) and both sounds similar (I wish I could compare side by side for the heck of it)
I saw a heated discussing regarding sound characteristic differences between 3000 and 2000 series. There was a member saying that both use the exactly the same sound engine (of course it does not mean that they would sound same as a end result though.)

Anyway, back to the main question, If glabalfirm wants to get the MPC2000 classic sound, I would record MPC's analog output, thru a good quality DAC converter attached to MacBook Pro (or any PC.)
If you just want to use MPC-2000 Classic's A/D converter, sample sound with the MPC, them export the WAV sound file using floppy drive. Or invest a CF reader for the MPC.
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By globalfirm Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:30 pm
JVC wrote:
globalfirm wrote:Thanks. (Aside: The MPC 2000 has a unique sound. I like it without a doubt most of all MPC´s. The 60 has good drums, the sp1200 a nice and determined sound design, the 3000 has a beautyfull groove but the drums don´t hit so hard ( similar to the 2000XL). But the MPC 2000´s sound design is modern and good. The other MPC´s don´t have got this sound effect.)


This may be off the topic (or old topic), but are MPC-2000 Classic and MPC-2000XL sound different? I've owned classic, (now I have XL instead) and both sounds similar (I wish I could compare side by side for the heck of it)
I saw a heated discussing regarding sound characteristic differences between 3000 and 2000 series. There was a member saying that both use the exactly the same sound engine (of course it does not mean that they would sound same as a end result though.)

Anyway, back to the main question, If glabalfirm wants to get the MPC2000 classic sound, I would record MPC's analog output, thru a good quality DAC converter attached to MacBook Pro (or any PC.)
If you just want to use MPC-2000 Classic's A/D converter, sample sound with the MPC, them export the WAV sound file using floppy drive. Or invest a CF reader for the MPC.


Thanks for your answer.
I found that the mpc 2000 XL has a beautyfull modern sound but somehow the drums didn´t convince me, they didn´t hit so hard. Therefore I decided for the mpc 2000. i often heard that, that the mpc 2000 would be the best. I did my final satisfactory research with my rap experienced hearing on youtube searching for mpc beat makers.

Back to your answer: Would you like to add links of exemplary devices? Is a DAC converter not the same as a usb audio interface? Can I use a floppy drive with a usb zip on the macbook pro? Can I use a cf reader on the 2000 and can i send with it files to the mac or just send files to the mpc? how is the cf reader connected to the mac ? via usb?
what do you think about a a simple audiocable without device? Maybe the soundcard of the macbook pro is better then a soundcard of a device and the laptop mic better then a bad mic?
By envisionelec Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:23 am
Lord Toranaga wrote:
roxstar wrote:Digital out of the MPC to the line-in (Digital) on your Macbook. The line-in is analog and digital.
I'm quite sure if you simple went Stereo out of your MPC into the (Analog) line in, you probably wouldn't notice much of a difference either.



Digital output on MPC is spdif. Digital input on MAC is TOSlink (mini). While roxstar's advice is spot on, the O.P. would need a format converter to take advantage of the digital specification.


Toslink is a connector, SPIDF is a format. He needs a coaxial to optical converter.
By JVC Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:17 am
globalfirm wrote:Back to your answer: Would you like to add links of exemplary devices? Is a DAC converter not the same as a usb audio interface? Can I use a floppy drive with a usb zip on the macbook pro? Can I use a cf reader on the 2000 and can i send with it files to the mac or just send files to the mpc? how is the cf reader connected to the mac ? via usb?
what do you think about a a simple audiocable without device? Maybe the soundcard of the macbook pro is better then a soundcard of a device and the laptop mic better then a bad mic?


Yes, by DAC converter, I meant a USB (or FireWire) audio interface, to record MPC-2000 playing. You can a get pretty decent DAC converter around $100. I use Behringer FCA202 (firewire), which can be purchased less than $100 on amazon. Even a cheapest DAC you can find on the market is better than using analog audio-in on laptop or desktop PC.
(I am not sure whether your MPC-2000 has digital in/out)

But, I think you are worrying too much about capturing MPC-2000 sound too much. Let's make beats!
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By globalfirm Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:14 pm
JVC wrote:
globalfirm wrote:Back to your answer: Would you like to add links of exemplary devices? Is a DAC converter not the same as a usb audio interface? Can I use a floppy drive with a usb zip on the macbook pro? Can I use a cf reader on the 2000 and can i send with it files to the mac or just send files to the mpc? how is the cf reader connected to the mac ? via usb?
what do you think about a a simple audiocable without device? Maybe the soundcard of the macbook pro is better then a soundcard of a device and the laptop mic better then a bad mic?


Yes, by DAC converter, I meant a USB (or FireWire) audio interface, to record MPC-2000 playing. You can a get pretty decent DAC converter around $100. I use Behringer FCA202 (firewire), which can be purchased less than $100 on amazon. Even a cheapest DAC you can find on the market is better than using analog audio-in on laptop or desktop PC.
(I am not sure whether your MPC-2000 has digital in/out)

But, I think you are worrying too much about capturing MPC-2000 sound too much. Let's make beats!


Yea.
Thank you.
( WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD WORTHBUYING USB DAC?)
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By globalfirm Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:31 pm
envisionelec wrote:
Lord Toranaga wrote:
roxstar wrote:Digital out of the MPC to the line-in (Digital) on your Macbook. The line-in is analog and digital.
I'm quite sure if you simple went Stereo out of your MPC into the (Analog) line in, you probably wouldn't notice much of a difference either.



Digital output on MPC is spdif. Digital input on MAC is TOSlink (mini). While roxstar's advice is spot on, the O.P. would need a format converter to take advantage of the digital specification.


Toslink is a connector, SPIDF is a format. He needs a coaxial to optical converter.


Thank you.
And I´m not sure if I understand your answer.
Maybe you got a link to a good coaxial to optical converter?
Is it the same as a DAC converter, a (for me usb) audio interface?
Last edited by globalfirm on Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.