Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By eastcoast121 Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:38 pm
im using a single note sound and want to record it in as a chord. i also want it to be on note off so when i let go it stops.

ive noticed i have to record each voice of the chord on seperate tracks one at a time. this can come out sounding not so natural as playing them all together. if i record it on one track, only one note gets saved because i guess only one note can play at a time.

is there any way to get around this? or do i have to keep recording in this annoying ass way
By Phulk Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:12 am
EDIT: For recording chords to one track..
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Don't use N.V. / 16 Levels for tuning..!

Go to Program mode, assign the sound on the next Pad Bank to all 16 pads, set every pad to note off..
Lets say you want to have Pad 4 as root note, set Tune Value of
Pad 1 to -30
Pad 2 to -20
Pad 3 to -10
Pad 4 to 0
Pad 5 to 10
.
.
.
Pad 16 to 120.

Takes about a minute..

Now you can edit every notes parameters (attack/decay,...) individually, as well as mixer settings AND you
can record chords to a single sequencer track.

Other way is auto create a chromatic program from a sound, for lazy people...
Last edited by Phulk on Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By nogginj Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:57 pm
While the above technique is nice because you can edit individual notes separately, part of the power of 16 levels is that you don't have to edit each note individually. ;]

I like 16 levels because I can tweak just one pad params, and all the notes get effected...I would not want to adjust the attack on 16 different notes playing the same sound.

To your original question, no I don't think you can record chords using 16 levels on the same track. However, your workaround using multiple tracks is pretty ingenious, so props on that.
By Phulk Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:48 pm
Absolutely agreeing.. Edited my post.. :wink:
Phulk wrote:EDIT: For recording chords to one track..
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By jibber Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:18 pm
Phulk wrote:EDIT: For recording chords to one track..
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Don't use N.V. / 16 Levels for tuning..!

Go to Program mode, assign the sound on the next Pad Bank to all 16 pads, set every pad to note off..
Lets say you want to have Pad 4 as root note, set Tune Value of
Pad 1 to -30
Pad 2 to -20
Pad 3 to -10
Pad 4 to 0
Pad 5 to 10
.
.
.
Pad 16 to 120.

Takes about a minute..

Now you can edit every notes parameters (attack/decay,...) individually, as well as mixer settings AND you
can record chords to a single sequencer track.

Other way is auto create a chromatic program from a sound, for lazy people...


I never thought about doing this, but this could help a lot in certain situations. Good idea!
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By eastcoast121 Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:31 pm
Phulk wrote:EDIT: For recording chords to one track..
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Don't use N.V. / 16 Levels for tuning..!

Go to Program mode, assign the sound on the next Pad Bank to all 16 pads, set every pad to note off..
Lets say you want to have Pad 4 as root note, set Tune Value of
Pad 1 to -30
Pad 2 to -20
Pad 3 to -10
Pad 4 to 0
Pad 5 to 10
.
.
.
Pad 16 to 120.

Takes about a minute..

Now you can edit every notes parameters (attack/decay,...) individually, as well as mixer settings AND you
can record chords to a single sequencer track.

Other way is auto create a chromatic program from a sound, for lazy people...



thankyou phulk. I was actually just thinking of this on my drive home from work today it popped in my head. thought it might be very tedious to do. but if there is no other work around this sounds like the best bet.

and although you can record on seperate tracks, it is very hard to get the same natural feel of playing it at once because your timing is slightly different each time (i usually record w quantize off when im doing this) even if you dont plan on it to be, it could only be a milisecond.

thankyou for the reply once again tho. and i can just save that program with no sound in it then just load the individual program and assign my one sound to each pad correct? i also like the idea of having differnet notes w different envelopes good tip.
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By eastcoast121 Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:24 am
yo just got a chance to set this up. wanted to give yall a technique im using. if you put the root note on the 8th pad and then map the rest to the minor scale up and down, you can get 2 whole octaves plus a 9th up top.

so the tune set up would be ..

pad1(-120) pad2(-100) pad3(-90) pad4(-70) pad5(-50) pad6(-40) pad7(-20) pad8(0) pad9(20) pad10(30) pad11(50) pad12(70) pad13(80) pad14(100) pad15(120) pad16(140)

the only reason i chose the minor scale is because most of my beats are based around minor chords. you could set up the same thing exept with a major scale if you wanted to, but the major scale is inside of the minor anyway so youll have a lot of freedom to play whatever.

this makes it so that every single pad is in key. unlike the 16 levels where its cromatic, but i rarely use notes outside of the key which is why i chose to do this. but if you do want one out of key just simply modify the tuning of the pad.

the chord structures as far as where the notes lay on the pad (for example with the root on pad 8 on 16 levels a minor chord is pad8 pad11 pad15 but with the new method its now pad8 pad10 pad12)..im used to 16 levels but im sure after using this method for a little while itll become second nature as the 16 leves was.

the whole point of this is so that you can get a full two octaves (one higher than the root, one lower than the root) which is really nice opposed to the one octave you get with 16 levels.

[EDIT] also dont forget to set the actual root note pitch in the trim screen parameters of the sound your using, not on the pads.