Sampling problem with SPDIF IN on the MPC2000

I'm not sure how many of you sample digitally. But I have a Digitech Genesis 3 guitar processor that I bought from my brother. It's gotta be around 10 years old, but it's in new condition, and sounds really good for the amp sim technology, which was top of the line at the time.

It sounds great through the SPDIF input on the MPC2000. But the problem I ran into when I was sampling was that when I used the last few seconds of sample memory to squeeze one more sample in, the unit froze up and started playing all the samples in the memory, one after another, non-stop. There was NOTHING I could do to stop it and I had to shut it down, losing all my samples I just finished making.

I thought maybe there was an issue with the RAM. So I used the analog inputs and used up the entire 32mb sample memory with my Korg Volca Beats. No problem. It even gave a pop-up message saying it had no memory left. All is good with the Ram. No malfunctions.

My thoughts are that it could be something about the Genesis 3. But before i rule that out, I'll have to do one more test. I still have my old PC here for Floppy disc sample backup. This was my old DAW machine. So I'll sample into the MPC with the Echo MIA card that served me well since 2001.

While I'm still in the process of getting around to that, I thought it would be good to post this topic for discussion to see whatever kind of weirdness anyone's experienced while sampling from SPDIF on the 2000.

I never sampled the full 32 megs with the spdif ins... and I don't really do it anyways since I aint saving on 20 floppy disks.

I have heard in the past of problems leading to the machine playing all the samples in memory though... but I forget the issue that caused it.


I guess you might just have to try and avoid the issue... or save the APS just before the final sample... and then try it again to see if the problems repeats.

Thanks for your input. It's definitely appreciated, getting acquainted with the quirks of the 2k that I never experienced before. Tomorrow I should have time to test the SPDIF on the Echo MIA. I know it worked well with the 1000. But I'll keep your advice in mind when saving before squeezing the last of the memory. Hopefully I'll have a solid conclusion on the cause of the problem. I'll post what I find.

okay great.. yeah im curious to know your conclusion testing that out.

also, man... I used to use a 2000xl a lot. But that was years ago... Eventually I got the classic... and soundwise, I prefer it for some reason... I don't know what it is specifically either... it's one of those things where you just can't put your finger on it. Just sampling into the machine you can get some nice sounding stuff from the classic.. just like the XL, but it seems a bit better.... a few guys here mentioned overdriving the input if memory serves me but I don't tend to do much of that. I like the analog input on the classic.

I noticed the same thing about the 2000 compared to the XL. The 2000 has a warmer color than the XL, which sounds a bit more sterile (but not as sterile as the 1k and the 2500). This is another reason why I liked the sound of the s2000 as well.
As much as i get caught up in other issues like wanting to use a multi card reader, and tossing around the idea of buying a 2kxl, I really should hold off on selling it. I might regret it in the long run, considering it's a solid machine that looks and feels like it's still new.

I prefer the sound of the 3000 over the 2000. But the 2000 is definitely the next best sounding model in my opinion.

you know what? make 20-30 solid beats (not just unfinished ideas) on the 2000 before considering selling it. That way you at least have a little library of tracks to sort of document the experience with the machine.

I was just thinking along those lines. Also, I should keep in mind that it's the perfect model to go with the existing hardware I have. Since I started over, I only kept the x0xb0x. I just bought the Korg Volca Beats. So the MPC2000 will take the place of all the classic drum machines used in acid house. So I'll dig through my MPC1000 folder and make new TR-707 programs. Then I'll take all my best 808 and 909 samples and resample them into the 2000, giving it more of a pumping signal. Once I have all these kits saved, it should only take a few minutes to load them up and have a live acid house jam with the rest of the analog gear. When I want to do something far beyond the limits of hardware, I'll sync and record into Reason 7. But keeping things back to basics with just the hardware to minimize the eye strain, the existing setup does seem more ideal, the more I think about it.... and I know I'd miss that sound!

Ironically, I never got excited sampling into Reason. Sampling has always been more fun on hardware, and I'm seeing that it will always remain that way for me.

haha, ya for sure.... you got the fx card in there too? the fx are shit, but you can do a lot with them...

distortedtekno wrote:But the problem I ran into when I was sampling was that when I used the last few seconds of sample memory to squeeze one more sample in, the unit froze up and started playing all the samples in the memory, one after another, non-stop. There was NOTHING I could do to stop it and I had to shut it down, losing all my samples I just finished making.

I think your problem relates more to maxing out the memory than from sampling through the S/PDIF. My XL could get a bit unpredictable when trying to squeeze those last few samples in it. Hopefully it's not anything more serious.