Transfering MpC2KxL MIDI to Mastering Software ?

Yo... Lets say I wanna transfer all my MIDI tracks from the MpC2KxL into some software like SONAR so I can mix, edit, add effects to, pan, manipulate and master individual sounds. What cables would I need coming out of the MpC2KxL into the computer?

I hope this make sense...

I think it's cool to transfer the midi to sonar or whatever if you want to manipulate it differently thatn on your MPC. However, the rest is confusing, cus I think you got MIDI mixed up with audio. When you want to mix, add effects, and master, that's done to the actual audio, not the midi.

To do this, you can make SONAR the master and MPC the slave w/ midi timecode. Then they are synced up and you can keep laying passes of audio from the mpc, while always starting the record from the same point.
I actually studied how to do that with sonar a couple moths ago.
If you can't swing it, lemme know and I will dig up the notes on that function. Or someone could chime in and give you the goods.

trupro wrote:I think it's cool to transfer the midi to sonar or whatever if you want to manipulate it differently thatn on your MPC. However, the rest is confusing, cus I think you got MIDI mixed up with audio. When you want to mix, add effects, and master, that's done to the actual audio, not the midi.

To do this, you can make SONAR the master and MPC the slave w/ midi timecode. Then they are synced up and you can keep laying passes of audio from the mpc, while always starting the record from the same point.
I actually studied how to do that with sonar a couple moths ago.
If you can't swing it, lemme know and I will dig up the notes on that function. Or someone could chime in and give you the goods.

My bad I thought is was MIDI, but yeah I'd preciate it, if you can dig that up for me.. BTW is SONAR good for masterimg?


GOODLOOKIN trupro

If you do want to put your MPC midi data into Sonar you can transfer sequences to the computer via zip or floppy. Then just dragging & dropping them into a new Sonar project should open them. It works with Logic anyway.

featherboy wrote:If you do want to put your MPC midi data into Sonar you can transfer sequences to the computer via zip or floppy. Then just dragging & dropping them into a new Sonar project should open them. It works with Logic anyway.

aight, but what cables will I be using?

none you tard, use a disk.

If you did want to transfer the MPC midi data through a cable in real time you need.... just midi cables....

Have one going from the MPC's midi out to computer's midi in. Have the MPC as the master & computer as the slave.

If you want the computer as a master you would also need a midi cable going from the computer's out to the MPC's in.

However, if you can transfer your midi files by disk it is a lot quicker.

featherboy wrote:If you did want to transfer the MPC midi data through a cable in real time you need.... just midi cables....

Have one going from the MPC's midi out to computer's midi in. Have the MPC as the master & computer as the slave.

If you want the computer as a master you would also need a midi cable going from the computer's out to the MPC's in.

However, if you can transfer your midi files by disk it is a lot quicker.

word.. thanks. preciate it

I dunno mang. Why transfer the midi data from the MPC to another sequencer, when what her really wants to do is mix the raw audio inside a multitrack DAW, like sonar? Dumping the midi to sonar would be ok if you wanna add complex synth lines (over a certain quantize resolution) to what you already programmed on the MPC, but once you slave the MPC to Sonar, you gonna have the best of both worlds. Transferring midi data also has nothing to with master or slave. And, they definately on point telling you that disk is alot faster to transfer midi data. But for what SK wanna do, (eventually wind up mixing/mastering in Sonar) you gotta get audio from the MPC recorded to the DAW in the computer. And when you have a master recorder...you make it the master. There is no reason to transfer the midi to sonar, in my veiw, unless you don;t like sequencing with the MPC. If that's the case, you better off selling it, getting a real sampler, and just sequencing with your computer.
What your doing by slaving the MPC to sonar, is getting exact start and update times from the computer, so you can keep laying pass after pass from the MPC, and the tracks will all be synced up. You don't even need 8outs, cus you could do as many passes as you need.
Like I said, I gotta go get my notes on that Sonar. Theres a little joint you click in the midi section to send the timecode thru a midi cable to the MPC. You also gotta set the MPC to recieve MTC, which is in shift MIDI...when you see it you'll get it. Then, chain a couple of reps of the verse sequences, and a couple of reps of chorus sequences, changes, etc. end to end in song mode. Then yo cut up those parts and throw em where you want em; copy paste etc. You do this cus really, you don't need all the reps if there's just a bass here or a snare drop or something. All you need is descreet tracks of the main pieces, so I lay those from song mode, and arrange the rest in the computer, specially if I'm just moving the finished loops around and mixing. If I got ntense changes and drum tricks in almost every sequence, then F it...I use up disk space to record the whole song end to end, every track. If it's a beat tape version, this won't matter, cus it's only a minute or two. If it's a five minute album cut, it can eat up space quick. But decide whats easier on either end at the time.
Also, if you like the mix out the box and wanna do a beattape version, you could always just two track that beeach with no time code. Just record the mix into sonar in stereo, and then master that two track w/ eq and compression. That's what I do when I'm lazy. But having it multitracked is cool cus you archiving it, mixing the way you want for every track, and it's ready to lay vocals on if you gonna do that too.
Again, I'll get those exact menu options for you tonight at the studio.

trupro wrote:I dunno mang. Why transfer the midi data from the MPC to another sequencer, when what her really wants to do is mix the raw audio inside a multitrack DAW, like sonar? Dumping the midi to sonar would be ok if you wanna add complex synth lines (over a certain quantize resolution) to what you already programmed on the MPC, but once you slave the MPC to Sonar, you gonna have the best of both worlds. Transferring midi data also has nothing to with master or slave. And, they definately on point telling you that disk is alot faster to transfer midi data. But for what SK wanna do, (eventually wind up mixing/mastering in Sonar) you gotta get audio from the MPC recorded to the DAW in the computer. And when you have a master recorder...you make it the master. There is no reason to transfer the midi to sonar, in my veiw, unless you don;t like sequencing with the MPC. If that's the case, you better off selling it, getting a real sampler, and just sequencing with your computer.
What your doing by slaving the MPC to sonar, is getting exact start and update times from the computer, so you can keep laying pass after pass from the MPC, and the tracks will all be synced up. You don't even need 8outs, cus you could do as many passes as you need.
Like I said, I gotta go get my notes on that Sonar. Theres a little joint you click in the midi section to send the timecode thru a midi cable to the MPC. You also gotta set the MPC to recieve MTC, which is in shift MIDI...when you see it you'll get it. Then, chain a couple of reps of the verse sequences, and a couple of reps of chorus sequences, changes, etc. end to end in song mode. Then yo cut up those parts and throw em where you want em; copy paste etc. You do this cus really, you don't need all the reps if there's just a bass here or a snare drop or something. All you need is descreet tracks of the main pieces, so I lay those from song mode, and arrange the rest in the computer, specially if I'm just moving the finished loops around and mixing. If I got ntense changes and drum tricks in almost every sequence, then F it...I use up disk space to record the whole song end to end, every track. If it's a beat tape version, this won't matter, cus it's only a minute or two. If it's a five minute album cut, it can eat up space quick. But decide whats easier on either end at the time.
Also, if you like the mix out the box and wanna do a beattape version, you could always just two track that beeach with no time code. Just record the mix into sonar in stereo, and then master that two track w/ eq and compression. That's what I do when I'm lazy. But having it multitracked is cool cus you archiving it, mixing the way you want for every track, and it's ready to lay vocals on if you gonna do that too.
Again, I'll get those exact menu options for you tonight at the studio.

yo, preciate the breakage, but like you said all I really wants to do is mix the raw audio inside a multitrack DAW, like sonar? Also I want the most effective way to mix and manipulate my tracks seperately, and this sounds like a winner. slave the mpc to sonar the master right?

do the beat in the mpc then assign the pads to the outs. and then using midi clock or time code, i like clock honestly less headaches, then have the mpc as the master and sonar as the slave. then hit play start while u are armed in sonar. Like setup what inputs are recrodin on what audio tracks, then arm them and the master recrod then u just hit play on the mpc and it will track each joint out to where u assinged it. MIDI clock and timecode is cool cause say u got 10 sounds in ur beat, u can do 2 passes. or if say u only got 4 ins on ur soundcard but ur ish is 6 tracks. midi clock or timecode will make it so that u can do 2nd passes to get the extra tracks.

Word, this is the same concept. Syncing the two together so that you
can lay multiple passes, and have all sounds on their own track in the recorder when you are done. Like I said, my personal preferance is to have the final recording device be the master. This is how it's usually done,
because the audio is gonna wind up inside the computer, so I feel the end device should be telling the machine it's pulling audsio from what to do. The clock you will end up arranging to belongs to sonar, so it makes sense to have it be the master clock. However, I don't always use sonar, so I don't know how solid the clock is. Really it's the same deal, and if you can pull either of these methods off, they will give you the same result when executed properly...you gonna be real happy in the end...
Binger, can you tell him what the screens are in sonar, and the MPC settings, etc?

i think u need to add the toolbar in view. the sync one then just set up the midi ish in preferences then its just shift +9 on the mpc and do midi clock send with the mpc then on sonar all u hit is midi clock on the sync toolbar and it should work. trupros way works too. i use that alot then u can just hit record and play and it will track. all u do then is have a midi cable from pc goin into the mpc then goto into midi mode and set it up to recicve midi clock. its pretty easy.

binger0 wrote:i think u need to add the toolbar in view. the sync one then just set up the midi ish in preferences then its just shift +9 on the mpc and do midi clock send with the mpc then on sonar all u hit is midi clock on the sync toolbar and it should work. trupros way works too. i use that alot then u can just hit record and play and it will track. all u do then is have a midi cable from pc goin into the mpc then goto into midi mode and set it up to recicve midi clock. its pretty easy.

This exactly what I'ma do.. thanks