Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000

By mpc3000 Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:50 pm
No. The XL does not support IDE, only ATAPI.

By kallback Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:52 am
hmmmmm, i think it will work, IDE(ATA) was originally designed for hard disks only, in this case they mean the same thing. cos ATAPI/IDE removable devices use the IDE channel to communicate with the MPC (or computer).
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By JUKE 179r Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:28 am
As long as it's 3 1/2 inches to fit in the drive slot it should work.
I thought IDE was the same as ATAPI because the ATAPI devices uses the IDE channel to communicate with your computer (MPC)?

http://www.iomega.com/connection/atapi.html

By mkbaproductions Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:47 pm
so the floppy drive inside the mpc has IDE connector? If it does then it will definately work!!!!!!! SOmeone confirm it to me pls

By mkbaproductions Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:52 pm
JUKE 179r wrote:As long as it's 3 1/2 inches to fit in the drive slot it should work.
I thought IDE was the same as ATAPI because the ATAPI devices uses the IDE channel to communicate with your computer (MPC)?

http://www.iomega.com/connection/atapi.html



youre right but where would you plug in the IDE cable? I dont think there is a IDE connector in the mpc.

By mkbaproductions Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:20 pm
ok so theres an IDE connector in the mpc. I think it will work!!!!

By mpc3000 Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:10 pm
" IDE(ATA) was originally designed for hard disks only"

Sure. And CF/SM media behave just like hard drives. This is not the issue.

"I thought IDE was the same as ATAPI"

No. ATAPI is a different protocol than IDE, even though they use the same cable. Read and weep:

http://www.stanford.edu/~csapuntz/ide.html
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/scsi/index-c.html
http://www.ata-atapi.com/hist.htm

A zip drive is an ATAPI device. A connector that supports only ATAPI does not support IDE. Check the archives, this has been covered before.

By mkbaproductions Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:20 pm
""""I finally got all the parts necessary to make the internal hard drive modification. A hard drive could only be connected to the SCSI connection, since the IDE port does not recognize hard drives (only removable drives). """"

taken from your website!


SO this digidrive will work since it is a removable drive!

By mpc3000 Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:15 pm
"...removable drives)" = ATAPI drives.

ATAPI != IDE.
IDE != ATAPI.

I am not going to explain this again and again. Welcome to my ignore list.

By mkbaproductions Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:11 pm
lol ok dont cry about it though!!!!
Go and try the newest HD compatible with your mpc since thats the only thing youre good for. LOL you NERD
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By Lampdog Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:49 pm
Please don't fight children. JK

The links 3k provided give a clear cut explaination and history
on IDE and ATAPI.

"since thats the only thing youre good for"
So, yeah, 3k is good for something
(no sarcasm intended - just fact) :D

I don't think weeping and nerdism mix.
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By 3rdID Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:08 pm
not to beat a dead thread but 3K, since the XL only responds to Atapi devices will it respond to this one

http://www.addonics.com/products/flash_ ... idrive.asp

It's an IDE/ATAPI CF reader. They claim IDE-only systems will recognize it as an Atapi device.

By mpc3000 Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:22 am
"since the XL only responds to Atapi devices will it respond to this one"

I am aware of that one, but it was not the one the poster was originally referring to.

I suspect the ATAPI will not work since Akai Pro/Numark could have just plopped that one in without having to update the OS (at a cost of thousands of dollars). Instead they opted for the Addonics IDE(?) reader along with an OS update, which may only work on that specific model.

But as it stands now, no one has confirmed that any IDE (or ATAPI) card reader works under 1.14.
By chiZleo Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:48 pm
i spoke to vstservice.com (the people who do the mcd upgrade for 199.99) and they said they use a modified version of 1.14 - os 1.14C. whatever that means

peace