Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By Dynamis Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:40 pm
when creating tracks , I like to use the 8 outs and will basically create a song in the MPC and track them out into Cubase. However, its a bit of a long process at the moment as by the time Im ready to record I usually end up giong into the mixre and spending ages trying to work out which drum sounds I have used for the particular track Im working on when trying to assign to the 8 outs.... is there something I am missing here?...what are other peoples methods for doing this?...is there a way of only asving the sounds that a particular track has used?

Thanks in advance
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By Lampdog Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:39 am
Yeah other than that you are stuck with the long way around.
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By descartes Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:03 am
if it really bothers you, develop your own custom pad setting that you use for every kit you put together -- for example, i always put a kick on pad a1 and a snare on pad a11 cause i find that it's easier for me to play that way -- then i just create a template where a11 always goes to out 2 and through my outboard eq and compressor (set to process snare sounds) and from there to the mixer -- of course, thats just the way that i've found works for me over the last six years, and you might find a different set up works for you better--
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By issues Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:52 pm
you can route entire programs through one out via the mixer screen.

just look in the bottom left corner: you'll see "all ch" and it selects everything, and u'll be able to put everysound in one drum program to one out.

By Dynamis Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:11 pm
descartes wrote:if it really bothers you, develop your own custom pad setting that you use for every kit you put together -- for example, i always put a kick on pad a1 and a snare on pad a11 cause i find that it's easier for me to play that way -- then i just create a template where a11 always goes to out 2 and through my outboard eq and compressor (set to process snare sounds) and from there to the mixer -- of course, thats just the way that i've found works for me over the last six years, and you might find a different set up works for you better--


I think this may actually be the best option for my scenario....'issues', I ouwldnt want to really put an entire drum program through one out, as within drum program I'd have a mix of sounds that I would want split out.
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By ieism Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:15 pm
i have this same problem sometimes. When i've finished a beat it takes me 10 minutes to find out what pads i've used. This gets worse when using a lot of programs.
I've grown used to it now, but if there is a faster way.......

So how would "purge" solve anything? I've seen the function sometimes, but never used it . Does it just dum all the unused sounds from memory?
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By Lampdog Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:36 pm
sounds that are not associated with a program get dumped from memory.
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By ieism Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:38 pm
Alright, thanks.

I've never thought of using that. i supose that would help i've you're sure you've finished your beat.

By Dynamis Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:06 pm
descartes wrote:if it really bothers you, develop your own custom pad setting that you use for every kit you put together -- for example, i always put a kick on pad a1 and a snare on pad a11 cause i find that it's easier for me to play that way -- then i just create a template where a11 always goes to out 2 and through my outboard eq and compressor (set to process snare sounds) and from there to the mixer -- of course, thats just the way that i've found works for me over the last six years, and you might find a different set up works for you better--


Just one more question...is there a way of literally setting up a template for assigning pads to outs?..can you explain exactly how you do this.

thanks
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By descartes Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:13 am
Dynamis wrote:
descartes wrote:if it really bothers you, develop your own custom pad setting that you use for every kit you put together -- for example, i always put a kick on pad a1 and a snare on pad a11 cause i find that it's easier for me to play that way -- then i just create a template where a11 always goes to out 2 and through my outboard eq and compressor (set to process snare sounds) and from there to the mixer -- of course, thats just the way that i've found works for me over the last six years, and you might find a different set up works for you better--


Just one more question...is there a way of literally setting up a template for assigning pads to outs?..can you explain exactly how you do this.

thanks


i just have a dummy program named "template." It has all the common pad assignments, routings and envelope settings I use --
when I sample a new sound, I assign it to a pad and then rename the "template" program--
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By Niceweis914 Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:46 am
I just label eack track with what is has on it and the pad
(Ex: Tr:01-Kick-PadA2
Tr:02-Snare-PadD3) It takes a min while your creating but it saves time down the line...or why not just go to the track and hit "Step" to find out the pad?
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By descartes Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:55 am
Niceweis914 wrote:I just label eack track with what is has on it and the pad
(Ex: Tr:01-Kick-PadA2
Tr:02-Snare-PadD3) It takes a min while your creating but it saves time down the line...or why not just go to the track and hit "Step" to find out the pad?


that makes sense ... if you dont record in real time ... but if you record in real time, you'll have kicks snares toms hats claps etc. all on the same track, cause you can't pre-assign sounds to tracks.

while you could then edit it out so each sound has its own track, its easier (most of the time) to just use the 8 outs and perform track muting and level ajustment w/ an actual mixer (in my opinion).

but i'm all about the hardware which is why i use an mpc and not a computer.

By Dynamis Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:19 pm
Niceweis914 wrote:I just label eack track with what is has on it and the pad
(Ex: Tr:01-Kick-PadA2
Tr:02-Snare-PadD3) It takes a min while your creating but it saves time down the line...or why not just go to the track and hit "Step" to find out the pad?


This is a good technique...however, I tend to have more than one sound on each track (i.e I'll bang out snares and kicks on the same track and may have 2-3 sampled sounds on the same track).

Literally my production work flow is to do most of my sample chopping on pc and assign to pads using mpc editor. I then put onto flash card and into mpc and load up several drum programs.... armed with a collection of sounds I'll be experimenting until I find the right drums to fit the track. then once I get the bare bones of the track I'll save .APS and .ALL . The I may revisit another time to do change ups etc, and by the time I actually cmoe to a point where Im happy the track is complete and ready to dump into cubase I literally could have odd sounds here and there coming from as many as 4 drum programs and this is where the time comes in.... if there was some kidna indicator or bouncing meters on tracks that have sounds playing it would make my life sooo much easier, instead I usually end up tapping various pads no variuos drum banks to try and work out whats being used in the track.

Sorry this is so long winded, but I just wanted to explain what I do to see if there are any other approaches people use to smooth out the workflow based on my style of building up a track