Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By Eddie Kain Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:45 pm
I read through the manual. It says that you can change the S to M on the main screen to record in multi-track mode. Im thinking thats MIDI though. My question is if I have for instance a drum program using bank A. I select track 1 and begin recording a percussion loop with the sound loaded. Once complete, I want to be able to track out each percussion sound to its own track. As of now, then would all remain on track 1, which would prevent me from doing this. Is there a function on the MP that allows me to seperate these sounds to their own track?
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By Smoove03 Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:58 pm
using your individual outs you can send each sound to its own output and ultimately to its own channel on your mixer....

you gotta go into the mixer screen then hit the F button under INDIV and that will bring up the individual out screen. then hit the pad you want to edit. select which out you want to use and that should send it to its own output...

is that what you meant?
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By Lampdog Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:20 pm
"then would all remain on track 1"

My personal terminology:

PASSIVE SEPERATION
Make track copies, delete instruments/samples out of each track copy until you have only 1 instrument/sample per track. Track seperation.

ACTIVE SEPERATION:
Record each sound on it's own track from jump street and that's "seperation as you produce". Track seperation.

"I read through the manual. It says that you can change the S to M on the main screen to record in multi-track mode. Im thinking thats MIDI though."

This is midi, correct, ie, I have a triton, I can record 16 triton tracks on 16 mpc tracks all at the same time, with 16 different instruments on each track. If you make up your own word/phrase you could say, it's active multiple midi track seperation. new catch phrase?!?
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By Eddie Kain Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:54 pm
Smoove03 wrote:using your individual outs you can send each sound to its own output and ultimately to its own channel on your mixer....

you gotta go into the mixer screen then hit the F button under INDIV and that will bring up the individual out screen. then hit the pad you want to edit. select which out you want to use and that should send it to its own output...

is that what you meant?



No, I got you on that. Thats AFTER each sound is on its own track. My question was if there was a way to take each individual sound/pad from one track and seperate them to different tracks. Then, I could do like you said and send them individualy to my mixer.

Judging from Lamps suggestions, I guess the answer is no. The passive approach would be my best bet I guess. The active approach would take away from the live drummer feel, because you'd have to record each track seperately. Thanks for the replies.
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By Eddie Kain Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:56 pm
Lampdog wrote:"then would all remain on track 1"


This is midi, correct, ie, I have a triton, I can record 16 triton tracks on 16 mpc tracks all at the same time, with 16 different instruments on each track. If you make up your own word/phrase you could say, it's active multiple midi track seperation. new catch phrase?!?




DAMM Reason!!!! I knew I shouldnt have sold my triton!!! Needed the money at the time tho. :cry:
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By descartes Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:21 pm
My question was if there was a way to take each individual sound/pad from one track and seperate them to different tracks. Then, I could do like you said and send them individualy to my mixer.


Record all your sounds on to one track (like you are already doing).

Then go to the editing screen [F2]. Copying an event. Time: Should be set as the enitre length of yer sequence. Notes: should be set to the pad number of the sound you waat to copy.

So say, you have a kick on pad A1 (note 36). Set Notes: for just this pad. Set the MODE: for replace, and set the copy sequence for 02. Hit DO IT. Now you have a copy of your sequence where only the kick is playing.

Now repeat the process for each of your kit sounds (Snares, hats, etc.), each time copying the sound to a subsequent track of sequence 2. At the end of this long process, each sound will have its own track.

Hint: If you want two sounds to copy onto the same track (say for example, you want both your open and closed hi-hats to be on the same track), set the Mode: for MERGE not REPLACE.

Like lampdog said, you can't set it that each pad records to a different track in real time (while you're playing/recording). Aka Active seperation.
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By Eddie Kain Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:03 pm
Sweeeeet, thanks Im gonna try that.


Wait..... so each sound will be on its own seperate sequence? I know you can 2nd sequence two together, but how would you play them all at once?
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By THE ADVERSARY Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:30 pm
OK Eddie you have a 002r in your picture so you should be using PT LE 7.
Just save the MPC as a standard MIDI file load it in PT then use the Select/Split Notes function to split the notes to a seperate tracks.
Then you can either resave and load back into the MPC or put the MPC in multi-channel mode and record it into a sequence.

It's fast and you already have PT LE.
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By Eddie Kain Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:34 pm
THE ADVERSARY wrote:OK Eddie you have a 002r in your picture so you should be using PT LE 7.
Just save the MPC as a standard MIDI file load it in PT then use the Select/Split Notes function to split the notes to a seperate tracks.
Then you can either resave and load back into the MPC or put the MPC in multi-channel mode and record it into a sequence.

It's fast and you already have PT LE.



Sold the 002r. That would be right on time though.
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By mrcrappypantson Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:40 am
descartes wrote:
My question was if there was a way to take each individual sound/pad from one track and seperate them to different tracks. Then, I could do like you said and send them individualy to my mixer.


Record all your sounds on to one track (like you are already doing).

Then go to the editing screen [F2]. Copying an event. Time: Should be set as the enitre length of yer sequence. Notes: should be set to the pad number of the sound you waat to copy.

So say, you have a kick on pad A1 (note 36). Set Notes: for just this pad. Set the MODE: for replace, and set the copy sequence for 02. Hit DO IT. Now you have a copy of your sequence where only the kick is playing.

Now repeat the process for each of your kit sounds (Snares, hats, etc.), each time copying the sound to a subsequent track of sequence 2. At the end of this long process, each sound will have its own track.

Hint: If you want two sounds to copy onto the same track (say for example, you want both your open and closed hi-hats to be on the same track), set the Mode: for MERGE not REPLACE.

Like lampdog said, you can't set it that each pad records to a different track in real time (while you're playing/recording). Aka Activeseperation.


Thanks for that info.
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By descartes Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:26 am
Eddie Kain wrote:Sweeeeet, thanks Im gonna try that.


Wait..... so each sound will be on its own seperate sequence? I know you can 2nd sequence two together, but how would you play them all at once?


Nah, you just have two sequences-- the original one, and the one where you seperate it out track by track. So say sequence one you only have one track of you banging away at the pads. sequence two you'll have, say, eight tracks,
one for each kit sound.

For example: sequence 2, track one: kick; sequence two, track two: snare; sequence two, track 3: low tom; sequence two, track four: cowbell (cause yer track aint sh!t w/o the coebell :) ; etc.

Then you use the mute pad function to vary the drumbeat on mixdown. i.e., start with the kick an snare, bring the hi-hat in and out, solo the cowbell for eightbars to watch the club go crazy, etc.

The problem with this method is it takes up a bitchload of time at first, until you get quick with it. Thas why I dont switch up gear. I can prob do all this (the editing) in around half a minute tops, but the first time you do it, it takes longer.
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By Lampdog Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:19 am
Eddie Kain wrote:DAMM Reason!!!! I knew I shouldnt have sold my triton!!! Needed the money at the time tho. :cry:


You can also do this with the ASR10.

I've done it before just to walk people through it.
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By Eddie Kain Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:12 pm
descartes wrote:
Eddie Kain wrote:Sweeeeet, thanks Im gonna try that.


Wait..... so each sound will be on its own seperate sequence? I know you can 2nd sequence two together, but how would you play them all at once?


Nah, you just have two sequences-- the original one, and the one where you seperate it out track by track. So say sequence one you only have one track of you banging away at the pads. sequence two you'll have, say, eight tracks,
one for each kit sound.

For example: sequence 2, track one: kick; sequence two, track two: snare; sequence two, track 3: low tom; sequence two, track four: cowbell (cause yer track aint sh!t w/o the coebell :) ; etc.

Then you use the mute pad function to vary the drumbeat on mixdown. i.e., start with the kick an snare, bring the hi-hat in and out, solo the cowbell for eightbars to watch the club go crazy, etc.

The problem with this method is it takes up a bitchload of time at first, until you get quick with it. Thas why I dont switch up gear. I can prob do all this (the editing) in around half a minute tops, but the first time you do it, it takes longer.




Got it man. Give me your mailing address, you got a six pack of whatever you're drinking on the way! 8)
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By Fung45 Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:03 pm
Eddie Kain wrote:I knew I shouldnt have sold my triton!!!

I plan to continue building a home studio from the ground up, as a rule, I never sell any equipment or hardware unless I'm sure I won't need it(i.e. extra zip drives). Stuff like keyboards. mixers, samplers you wanna hold on to. I've read alot of material on home studios and that seems to be a common thread, so hold on to your gear and accumulate!
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By Eddie Kain Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:09 pm
Fung45 wrote:
Eddie Kain wrote:I knew I shouldnt have sold my triton!!!

I plan to continue building a home studio from the ground up, as a rule, I never sell any equipment or hardware unless I'm sure I won't need it(i.e. extra zip drives). Stuff like keyboards. mixers, samplers you wanna hold on to. I've read alot of material on home studios and that seems to be a common thread, so hold on to your gear and accumulate!



That was around the time I had the "Reason Bug" .... BAD!!! You couldnt tell me shyt about ANYTHING else! Reason was above all in my opinion. Dont get me wrong... as far as software goes... nothing is messing with reason. But now that I have entered the hardware world, Im at a loss unless I run my outs from my pc into my 2000xl.