Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000

By potato Thu Dec 12, 2002 4:38 am
OK I HAVE A 2000XL AND I JUST GOT IT AND I WAS PLANNING SAMPLING HEAVY, MY MAIN MAN IS DJ PREMIER, I JUST LOVE HIS MUSIC. COULD ANYONE LET ME IN ON HOW HE SAMPLES, AND WHERE IN THE #### CAN I GET THOSE NASTY, GRITTY DRUMS HE USES????[/color]
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By Droopy Thu Dec 12, 2002 11:23 am
I'm gonna answer both questions in this thread but before I do I have to ask you some questions.

I. Why do you wanna bite the Neptunes,Timbaland,DJ Premier,ect? I mean.....just develop your own sound. That would be the logical thing to do. There are hundreds of wannabe producers who think that having the same equipment,they'll be able to produce the same records that these people produce. Some can do this,but they'll never make it into the music business because they'll always be known as Neptune/Timbaland/Premier biters. You can use them as inspiration,but don't copy them!

II. By now you should know the equipment these people use because they use industry standard equipment(along with some cheap stuff)& some vintage equipment that is getting harder to find!!!!! If you listen to enough music you can pick apart all the equipment they use without thought! You really can't call yourself a producer until you can do that!

Now to answer your questions!

1. Premier still uses his E-MU SP-1200 for those drums you keep hearing. That doesn't do you any good if you can't work the sampler like he can! That goes the same way for sampling. You must learn how to look for a sample(it'll jump out at you if you are creative & look hard enough).

2. You have to go to Virginia Beach to get a beat from the Neptunes. In the five years they've been blowing up the industry with their production,they've been using the same old equipment(with a few upgrades). Those synths that you've been hearing is Reason(1.0 but recently 2.0). They never use the samples off those software. If the bass wasn't a reason synth,then they would put a Korg Triton Classic behind it along with other sampled instruments. They've layed off the software synths & electronic drums a little & used regular instruments & percussion because they feel there's an over-saturation of those beats that they produce comming out! They've used the Casio keyboards for that track "Work It Out" by Beyonce Knowles.

3.Timbaland is a different story. He'll usually come to where you at & produce a record from there. His production is sometimes sample-heavy & other times studio session musicians play in his tracks. With his R&B tracks it's usually a comination of the two. His boards are hidden very well because of the effects the engineers use,but having said that he uses new & vintage Roland keyboards. It's common knowledge among underground producers that he uses an Ensoniq ASR-X Pro for his sampling. It just depends,sometimes he'll favor live instruments(not drums)over sampled instruments. If it's acoustic percussion he's using,than it's sampled very well!!!!!!

Even though I told you all of this,that doesn't give you an excuse to go & bite these producers. Use your creative talent & make some beats of your own!!! I'm out this piece!!!! Holla!!![/color]

By KoolSha78 Thu Dec 12, 2002 7:03 pm
potato wrote:OK I HAVE A 2000XL AND I JUST GOT IT AND I WAS PLANNING SAMPLING HEAVY, MY MAIN MAN IS DJ PREMIER, I JUST LOVE HIS MUSIC. COULD ANYONE LET ME IN ON HOW HE SAMPLES, AND WHERE IN THE #### CAN I GET THOSE NASTY, GRITTY DRUMS HE USES????[/color]

Get an MPC 60.
Seriously, it gives the drums that fuzz.[/color]
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By EdwardSakamura Thu Dec 12, 2002 8:18 pm
werd.
Primo = mpc 60II and not much else (check the interview that just dropped)
pete rock = mpc 2000xl, dps 16 and a "old school electric piano" (from the source interview last month or the month b4)
neptunes = asr-10 (not X, 10 they keyboard, from this months interview in urb or backspin or some ish, well they interview NERD but thats just the neptunes +1)
timbo+ dog above was right on, xcept he didnt mention that timbo uses a "subtract style" IE instead of buiding a track from a blank up, he fills the sequencer and deletes stuff. IE fills up all 16 steps on the sequencer of a tr-808 then deletes steps to make beats insted of starting blank and adding beats. (thats from an interview he gave to xxl a couple of years ago)

plus, man, if u have an eb-16 and a pc, all ur drums off of ANY sampler can soud JUST LIKE an mpc 60's drums/samples. It just takes more work.
Outkast- = pro tools & maaaaadddd plug ins with a s3000 (an interview b4 their 3rd album dropped)
Dre= Mpc 2kxl or 3k and a triton with some super new, but old skool esque modeling synth for his bass (i forget what tho)
me= skxl and mad skillz....[/color]
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By itchyvinyl Thu Dec 12, 2002 8:27 pm
I always heard that Primo uses an MPC-60II midi'ed up with a S950.[/color]

By Da Wicker Man Thu Dec 12, 2002 11:12 pm
Sample the drums off Isley Brothers/Footsteps in the dark, and your track will have a Primoesq sound

peaceparkz[/color]

By tjwett Fri Dec 13, 2002 2:51 am
the ARX Pro was the warmest tabletop sampler on the planet, ever. Too bad the sequencer sucked balls. Team it up with an MPC sequencer and it's deadly.[/color]
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By Droopy Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:22 am
To Boogie Man:I stand corrected!!!!!!!!!!![/color]
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By EdwardSakamura Fri Dec 13, 2002 6:45 pm
werd, I 4got to add this but this is the list of most commonly  used gear that I have come across the pro's using

Mpc 2000/60/3000
triton le/classic/pro
asr-10 (NOT X) rack or keyboard version
akai s900/950
fantom
Reason (no joke, mad heads claim they DO use reason for sampling grooves or genrating sound with the synth's)
and the most commonly used that I have seen:
the 808 and the 909 (big surprise here)[/color]
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By Prah_860_ Sun Mar 16, 2003 11:42 pm
Droopy wrote:I'm gonna answer both questions in this thread but before I do I have to ask you some questions.

I. Why do you wanna bite the Neptunes,Timbaland,DJ Premier,ect? I mean.....just develop your own sound. That would be the logical thing to do. There are hundreds of wannabe producers who think that having the same equipment,they'll be able to produce the same records that these people produce. Some can do this,but they'll never make it into the music business because they'll always be known as Neptune/Timbaland/Premier biters. You can use them as inspiration,but don't copy them!

II. By now you should know the equipment these people use because they use industry standard equipment(along with some cheap stuff)& some vintage equipment that is getting harder to find!!!!! If you listen to enough music you can pick apart all the equipment they use without thought! You really can't call yourself a producer until you can do that!

Now to answer your questions!

1. Premier still uses his E-MU SP-1200 for those drums you keep hearing. That doesn't do you any good if you can't work the sampler like he can! That goes the same way for sampling. You must learn how to look for a sample(it'll jump out at you if you are creative & look hard enough).

2. You have to go to Virginia Beach to get a beat from the Neptunes. In the five years they've been blowing up the industry with their production,they've been using the same old equipment(with a few upgrades). Those synths that you've been hearing is Reason(1.0 but recently 2.0). They never use the samples off those software. If the bass wasn't a reason synth,then they would put a Korg Triton Classic behind it along with other sampled instruments. They've layed off the software synths & electronic drums a little & used regular instruments & percussion because they feel there's an over-saturation of those beats that they produce comming out! They've used the Casio keyboards for that track "Work It Out" by Beyonce Knowles.

3.Timbaland is a different story. He'll usually come to where you at & produce a record from there. His production is sometimes sample-heavy & other times studio session musicians play in his tracks. With his R&B tracks it's usually a comination of the two. His boards are hidden very well because of the effects the engineers use,but having said that he uses new & vintage Roland keyboards. It's common knowledge among underground producers that he uses an Ensoniq ASR-X Pro for his sampling. It just depends,sometimes he'll favor live instruments(not drums)over sampled instruments. If it's acoustic percussion he's using,than it's sampled very well!!!!!!

Even though I told you all of this,that doesn't give you an excuse to go & bite these producers. Use your creative talent & make some beats of your own!!! I'm out this piece!!!! Holla!!!

i thought you can't call yourself a producer until you are able to cipher the keyboards and drum machines sound come from?....... in that case your are not a producer........

primo uses the mpc60II maybe with the s950.............neptunes uses the korg triton classic along with other korg keyboards like the one with the 6 f_ keys under the screen...the one before the trinity came out.....they also have a asr 10 the keyboard version/ timbaland has the asr-10 keyboard version/mo phatt/ triton pro(76key)classic/mpc 3000/and few other rack modules.......

and producers are allowed to switch up without notice to throw you off.....so it is the person more than it is the equipment
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By egokilla Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:09 am
I agree completely. The hardware that some of our favorite producers use is NOT entirely responsible for the sound they create. My ONLY hip hop influence when producing is Rza, Mathematics, and Prince Paul.

Then again, I'm almost 100% drum and bass infleunced. I rarely produce hip-hop beats, but know how. Anyway- I can re-create gravediggaz beats on my DR-202. This is a 100 dollar device bro, and the sound is authentic- once mastered.

These cats know how to rip a sampler a new a55hole, and thats what we hear. I have heard ALOT of producers using midi leads from other songs and the distinct sound of soft synths is overwhelming in alot of new hip-hop.

I was also suprised that I saw no mention of Remixmag. Remix breaks down gear lists from all types of artists.

One thing however that is contradictory is one piece of gear that is dominant in the music I produce.. the DX7.
You will not be able to reproduce a Orb, Orbital, New Order track without one. It's that special.
However with hip-hop I have not yet found the "standard" while most people claim it's an MPC-60, I dont think so.. I can render my drums in Lo-fi on all of my hardware.

By psyclones prod. Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:56 am
HOW ABOUT BEING ORIGINAL AND COME UP WITH YOUR OWN UNIQUE SOUND. PRIMO IS PRIMO YOU IS YOU!!
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By Prah_860_ Tue Mar 18, 2003 1:12 am
psyclones prod. wrote:HOW ABOUT BEING ORIGINAL AND COME UP WITH YOUR OWN UNIQUE SOUND. PRIMO IS PRIMO YOU IS YOU!!


that pretty much sums it up