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Ok i know this has been put down around here a few times, but the other day i saved all my .ALL and .APS files to zip and then transferd them to my computer via scsi zip for storage.

However the other day when i tried to load those same .APS and .ALL files back in to the mpc, the MPC tells me there are files missing and my PGM that i originaly created is not even a pgm no more and its all scattered and the sounds dont load. Is this because the computer changed the mpc snd file or changed them in anyway ?

any help appreciated ..

doh wrote:Ok i know this has been put down around here a few times, but the other day i saved all my .ALL and .APS files to zip and then transferd them to my computer via scsi zip for storage.

However the other day when i tried to load those same .APS and .ALL files back in to the mpc, the MPC tells me there are files missing and my PGM that i originaly created is not even a pgm no more and its all scattered and the sounds dont load. Is this because the computer changed the mpc snd file or changed them in anyway ?

any help appreciated ..

If your filenames didn't comply with the 8.3 DOS filename standard, chances are your PC is the culprit.

The quickest and easiest thing to do when I experienced that was to rename your sounds to conform to the 8.3 standard, and then rebuild the programs with MPCEditor (if your on a PC), and then transfer everything back.

I know some cats that don't like it, but if you've got samples on your PC, or your sampling with your PC and want to use the samples for creating programs in the MPC, MPCEditor is a GODSEND!

Peace,
KM

hey man thanks for the reply, just one other question tho, when you say rename the files to comply with the 8.3 standard, how exactly would i go about doing this ?

Regardless of whether you save your sounds as .WAV or .SND, the MPC is going to default to saving the file with a 3 character file extension. All you have to do is give your file a file name with 8 characters max, and avoid "special" characters, like spaces, etc.

Save your programs with 8 character file names also.

Peace,
KM

K-Mello wrote:If your filenames didn't comply with the 8.3 DOS filename standard, chances are your PC is the culprit.

The quickest and easiest thing to do when I experienced that was to rename your sounds to conform to the 8.3 standard, and then rebuild the programs with MPCEditor (if your on a PC), and then transfer everything back.

I know some cats that don't like it, but if you've got samples on your PC, or your sampling with your PC and want to use the samples for creating programs in the MPC, MPCEditor is a GODSEND!

Peace,
KM

I just installed my MCD drive and have been experiencing the same bull with the 8.3 filename business. When you say rebuild programs with MPCEditor...would that also help speed up the process in renaming all of the sound files?

If not, I'm just going to grin and bear it...reinstall the internal zip drive and start going through disks renaming stuff then resaving the PGMs like a slave to my machine.

Advice on a better, less tedious process would be much appreciated...if there is any.

P.S. Also I have the old grey 2000xl...doesn't the blue 2000xl have a usb input for some external drive goodness?

geng-grizzly wrote:P.S. Also I have the old grey 2000xl...doesn't the blue 2000xl have a usb input for some external drive goodness?

Nope. None of the 2KXL's have USB... just old azz SCSI.

geng-grizzly wrote:

K-Mello wrote:If your filenames didn't comply with the 8.3 DOS filename standard, chances are your PC is the culprit.

The quickest and easiest thing to do when I experienced that was to rename your sounds to conform to the 8.3 standard, and then rebuild the programs with MPCEditor (if your on a PC), and then transfer everything back.

I know some cats that don't like it, but if you've got samples on your PC, or your sampling with your PC and want to use the samples for creating programs in the MPC, MPCEditor is a GODSEND!

Peace,
KM

I just installed my MCD drive and have been experiencing the same bull with the 8.3 filename business. When you say rebuild programs with MPCEditor...would that also help speed up the process in renaming all of the sound files?

If not, I'm just going to grin and bear it...reinstall the internal zip drive and start going through disks renaming stuff then resaving the PGMs like a slave to my machine.

Advice on a better, less tedious process would be much appreciated...if there is any.

P.S. Also I have the old grey 2000xl...doesn't the blue 2000xl have a usb input for some external drive goodness?

I don't think MPCEditor helps with renaming the files. I haven't used it in a while because I'm not working with samples much except for drums. Besides, unless its too early and I'm not thinking straight yet, by the time you get into MPCEditor, you're already on the PC anyway, and therefore already right in the middle of the problem.

Now if you are starting on the PC side, you might be able to find some batch renaming program before you create programs with MPCEditor.

You may have to just grin and bear it like you said. Its the price we pay for using old technology. It is what it is.

Peace,
KM

mpc editor automaticaly renames the filenames, if you use the "export program" function.
i use it a lot and never had problems.
this little software is the best you can get...

K-Mello wrote:

geng-grizzly wrote:

K-Mello wrote:If your filenames didn't comply with the 8.3 DOS filename standard, chances are your PC is the culprit.

The quickest and easiest thing to do when I experienced that was to rename your sounds to conform to the 8.3 standard, and then rebuild the programs with MPCEditor (if your on a PC), and then transfer everything back.

I know some cats that don't like it, but if you've got samples on your PC, or your sampling with your PC and want to use the samples for creating programs in the MPC, MPCEditor is a GODSEND!

Peace,
KM

I just installed my MCD drive and have been experiencing the same bull with the 8.3 filename business. When you say rebuild programs with MPCEditor...would that also help speed up the process in renaming all of the sound files?

If not, I'm just going to grin and bear it...reinstall the internal zip drive and start going through disks renaming stuff then resaving the PGMs like a slave to my machine.

Advice on a better, less tedious process would be much appreciated...if there is any.

P.S. Also I have the old grey 2000xl...doesn't the blue 2000xl have a usb input for some external drive goodness?

I don't think MPCEditor helps with renaming the files. I haven't used it in a while because I'm not working with samples much except for drums. Besides, unless its too early and I'm not thinking straight yet, by the time you get into MPCEditor, you're already on the PC anyway, and therefore already right in the middle of the problem.

Now if you are starting on the PC side, you might be able to find some batch renaming program before you create programs with MPCEditor.

You may have to just grin and bear it like you said. Its the price we pay for using old technology. It is what it is.

Peace,
KM

KM...thanks fam. Yeah I figured I'd just make a weekend out of it. Hopefully it isn't too many long filenames.

I'll probably use MPCEditor to rename and create programs off of this LINN Drums CD I have...just for the ease of loading multiple sounds up once I import it all to the CF Card.

Resurrecting topic.

So since then, I've been on & off with the super tedious mission of renaming all of the 8+ character filenames on my MANY zip disks...then it dawned on me...

Would I be able to install the internal MCD Drive...as bought from MPC Stuff (I'm pretty sure it's ATAPI, not non-hot swappable IDE)...then plug in a SCSI Zip Drive to the external port and load up beats off of the zip disks and then save em to the CF Card (1gb)? I don't see why this wouldn't work...but it'd be a **** to have to go into the MPC, take out the internal Zip and install the MCD, then have to reverse the process back to internal Zip if this idea is a failure (already did this before when discovering the 8 char. filename issue...fun).

Also, had I formatted the Zips on the PC, as Fat16, wouldn't the 8+ char. filenames show up? Whenever I tried to load up PGMs in MPCEditor for the sake of faster file renaming, the files that weren't DOS 8.3 compliant wouldn't even show up. Not only that, but they would be renamed on the zip disk as "filename________-4", as many of you wizzes know.

After having searched and read many newer threads, I also know that OS 1.20 is to support IDE-based CF Drives, to ALWAYS format CF Cards on the PC (Fat16), organize EVERY PGM in its own folder on the CF Card, and if I ever want to get a 2gb Sandisk Card...I have to partition it down the middle on the PC first.

This place is a f'in gold mine.

geng-grizzly wrote:Would I be able to install the internal MCD Drive...as bought from MPC Stuff (I'm pretty sure it's ATAPI, not non-hot swappable IDE)...then plug in a SCSI Zip Drive to the external port and load up beats off of the zip disks and then save em to the CF Card (1gb)? I don't see why this wouldn't work...but it'd be a **** to have to go into the MPC, take out the internal Zip and install the MCD, then have to reverse the process back to internal Zip if this idea is a failure (already did this before when discovering the 8 char. filename issue...fun).

Lamp,
Thanks for the reply...but that's not exactly what I was asking nor worried about (I understand it ties into the MPCEditor issue...but I thought I made it clear that I understood that it was because the filenames were over 8 chars). I wrote that on a fit of insomnia...

My question really is, as quoted above, can't I just load up PGMS (plus the SND files and all) from an EXTERNAL SCSI ZIP DRIVE and then save them to the CF CARD in my INTERNAL MCD Drive? That way, I can do this whole disk management thing within the MPC and not have to worry about getting my PC involved?

That seems to make sense, right?

and let me add that, sure I'll even rename the files that are too long before saving them to the CF Card...but I just want to know if I can have both the internal MCD drive AND external Zip Drive through rear SCSI port both plugged in and functional (to be able to load and save from either, basically).

Good looks Lamp...

Exactly what I needed/wanted to hear.

Also, I read in another thread that one could easily save time by saving each PGM (and the rest) in individual folders on the CF Card. Makes total sense and is a great tip. But my concern is, what if you want to load multiple beats up at the same time...won't the trail of default "sound1.snd" filenames clash? Say a PGM with sound1.snd, sound2.snd, etc. is already loaded on the MPC...if you try to load up another PGM with the same set of filenames, just from a different folder, won't that result in the new PGM being loaded, but with the previous PGM's sounds?