2Kxl Lack of grit on drums / what you guys do?

Ok no debating the mpc 2000xl sounds paper thin compared to the roger linn models / ensoniq samplers /// I probably never will find a local mpc3000 so i might have to settle for a 2kxl - now i own a s950 and for sure my drums and basslines will come from it, but for you guys that rock it as stand alone how do you guys add that thump? do say layering cause its not the same....what other gear do you use the 2k with?. thats the main negative beef with these, dont get me started on the newer ones...

U can convert the samples to 12 and 8 bit
U can sample 12 inch records at 45 speed and tune it back down to give a more fuller and grittier sound
Layering mixed with messing with tuning, filter, decay, and resonance works nicely

Thin?? My drums and beats are very thick and phat. I eq everything before it goes into the mpc

yeah, i eq and chop the samples before i put them on my mpc too.

What you put in helps, but what goes out the mpc 2000xl is what counts and what iam talking about. it thats the case there wouldnt be a difference between any mpc would their?

what exactly are you trying to accomplish?

You can make ur drum sounds official in the mp so if your debating which one to get base your choice on other features that one might have over the other

No i already have a s950 for the punch. the 2000xl would just control my s950 believe that fami.

firework wrote:No i already have a s950 for the punch. the 2000xl would just control my s950 believe that fami.

sounds to me like you already have a solution.

well

for people who use sample packs and that sort of thing

its easy for your beats to have that pre thump because most sample packs have drums that already have that extra punch or whatever samples have that extra punch

but

for people who do strightly record sample based music

it can be very very difficult at times to get that grit in box

sure you can reduce your bits and change the frequency

but

the tradeoff when you reduce bits is that the sample is significantly softer

i've done it with drums and dang it sounds soft and doesnt have the punch and even the good glass grit, its just muffled and grainy. something that can be closely mirrored by just sampling at 45 +8....

so, i picked up a roland s-50 keyboard, pretty cool 12 bit, and voila it sounds clear but it still has a bit of punch to anything you put into it, plus the filters are pretty friddgin sweet for bass sounds, but it doesnt give the glass grit..

the only sampler that gave me a really really cool glass grit was the sp 303 and 404, both i sold and hope someday to pick up again... but the sp1200 would be the king if i could get one....

firework wrote:...do say layering cause its not the same....

It's not the same, but if you eq and layer it well, you can have your drums sounding prettty phat. If not, you're not doing it right.