Stuck in a two bar world

What do you guys do to change up your sequences in a song without changing the whole feeling of the main sequence?

How many sequences do yall typically use for songs? I always get stuck in 2 bar sequences and end up having boring repertative shiet.

I'll be sure to move this type of post to the other forum next time..

For Hiphop and Urban Rnb I use 4 or 8 bars sequences......you can highlight the number of bars and turn the data knob to what ever number you like and then press do it......I always do it in the beginning before I start making the trackz

I had the same problem when I first started out. I have my MPC set so when I power it up it defaults to 16 bars which I find keeps things from being to repetitive. I've gradually uped the bar count over the years, It's almost time for me to change it to 32. If I find myself bored with what I've done I just switch to a new sequence and start from scratch with the same programs, if nothing else I get some new ideas for the original sequence.

i had the same kind of problem, but when i uped the bars and tried to punch in drums per say, the first 1 or 2 bars would sound tight, then fall off, what i do now is, if i start punching and the first bar comes out tight, i repeatedly copy it to the next bar and so on, then so it doesnt get repeditve, but keeps the rythem, earse some of the drums then punch in agian

Are you referring to the song mode. This is where you can take all the sequences you have made (2, 4, 6, 8, etc. bars) and put them together to form one track (song/sequence).

ex.
sequence01 (4 bars)
sequence02 (4 bars)
sequence03 (4 bars)
sequence04 (4 bars)

now becomes

sequence05 (16 bars)

hope that helps.

i just make mad sequences, normally 2-4 bars, make changes to drums basslines, melodies and what not , sequence in song mode. done.

make ur first sequence, the main feeling of the song(make sure u record each track seperately) then copy the sequence to the next sequnce, and delete the tracks u want and add new tracks to make the sequence sound different, but it will still have the same feel as the original.
i hope this makes sence.

to make 4 bars and then Edit those at will to make more complex (4) bar sequences. Until you gain more confidence, believe me you will.

this is all good info yall. keep it comin'

peace

I just started trying to build longer more complex and progressive sequences. This is what I do...

Make my basic 2 bar drum pattern.(Kick Kick Snare Kick Snare..etc.)
From there I will copy it over a few times and go to song mode then combine all four basic loops into one 8 bar loop.
From there I will build like add kicks, snares, hats, cymbals, and such.
You can take what you've made copy it and make another 32 bar sequence.

The possiblities are endless. Once my drums are done or at least to a point where my head's moving I'll record them into ProTools then play start adding on my bassline with one of my keyboards or guitar. On and on just keep building that way. Of course you can start with your bassline and whatever. Just make a simple basic 2 bar pattern and copy it over a few times and you can start building longer sequences.

im kinda in the same position as you.

It's just more easier for me to make more 2 bar sequences then an 8 bar.


i actually don't see the whole point of making longer sequences.

i mean if you have a continuous loop its more easy structure wise to just break it down into smaller portions.

the only thing i can see that you might get out of stacking the bars up is a less clustered area in song mode......

someone want to inform me, i think im kind of lost here

shyda wrote:http://www.tweakheadz.com/how_to_make_original_drum_tracks.htm

nice

Chromemagnum wrote:I just started trying to build longer more complex and progressive sequences. This is what I do...

Make my basic 2 bar drum pattern.(Kick Kick Snare Kick Snare..etc.)
From there I will copy it over a few times and go to song mode then combine all four basic loops into one 8 bar loop.
From there I will build like add kicks, snares, hats, cymbals, and such.
You can take what you've made copy it and make another 32 bar sequence.

The possiblities are endless. Once my drums are done or at least to a point where my head's moving I'll record them into ProTools then play start adding on my bassline with one of my keyboards or guitar. On and on just keep building that way. Of course you can start with your bassline and whatever. Just make a simple basic 2 bar pattern and copy it over a few times and you can start building longer sequences.

Thanks for the info. Hey what ProTools system are you using? how do you record the drums into ProTools?

Um....

What's the point of making multiple sequences and assembling them in song mode when you can just do what you do on one sequence? I've pondered over this for a long time as I don't really see why anyone would use that method.