SCSI/Memory Questions

what would you suggest for memory: a scsi zip drive or a scsi ext hard drive?
I just wonder how much i can actually save on to a zip disk. can I save a whole beat that I have made along with assigned pads and samples, on one disk or will it take 4 or 5? My plan was to buy an internal 80GB scsi hard drive and put it in a case, and use that. Is that possible? all I could seem to find online for external scsi hard drives were 4-9 GB.... Let me know what you think I can do.. Late, Haz

an xl only reads partitions up to 1gb. so if you have 9gb it will be chopped into 9 partitions. you can save an entire beat on 1 zip easily. probably a couple beats per zip. i have internal and external hard disks. and an ext zip. i really just use the internal to store my sound files. so i build my kit from there. then when i save my seq and prg files for my beat i put it on the external drive. i would say to go for the ext. hdd. save and loads will be faster and the drive is more reliable than zips. i would recomend an 80pin hotswap drive. then use an adaptor to step it down to 50pin for use in an ext case.

you havent said what machine you are using... if youre using the XL get a card reader for it. zip provide plenty of storage as well...

LunaticBastard wrote:i would recomend an 80pin hotswap drive. then use an adaptor to step it down to 50pin for use in an ext case.

Do the newer 80 pin drives work with an XL at all?

I'm using a 2kXL

80 pin drives work. you just have to buy a $4 converter from ebay. i use them on my xl. both xl's i had for that matter. and scince they are newer drives that are still in production for servers and what not. they are alot cheaper and more reliable than just getting a 50pin drive.

LunaticBastard wrote:80 pin drives work. you just have to buy a $4 converter from ebay. i use them on my xl. both xl's i had for that matter. and scince they are newer drives that are still in production for servers and what not. they are alot cheaper and more reliable than just getting a 50pin drive.

Cool, I'll have to try that. If they just weren't that **** loud

does using the adapter mean I have to have 2 scsi cables? an 80 pin and a 50 pin?

Hazflow wrote:does using the adapter mean I have to have 2 scsi cables? an 80 pin and a 50 pin?

No, the adapter plugs directly into the drive.

i found the noise is hit and miss. i have 5 drives. all the same model and age. 2 are loud as hell. sounds like a jet taking off when they turn on. the other 3 are pretty quite. i also have 2 50pin drives and one is definitly louder than the other.

LunaticBastard wrote:i found the noise is hit and miss. i have 5 drives. all the same model and age. 2 are loud as hell. sounds like a jet taking off when they turn on. the other 3 are pretty quite.

Are they all 10k RPM or are the quieter ones 7200?

I'm gonna try one I have lying around here soon...although a few 4GB drives should be fine as well.

Yo haz, go an internal Card reader. you wont be disapointed. You can have a 1Gb card in there, quik interchange with ya pc.

No noise (ahh silence)
no need for lugging an extra box, 2 extra cables and an extra power point taken.

The card reader is all internal and you can save hundreds of beats and samples per disk, without the worry of it malfunctioning, like ZIp disks do.

yeah, I think thats tha route I'm gonna take... I know they have the kit for like $150, but how hard would it be to use other internal multi card readers?
got em on ebay for like $30.... I did read a how to tutorial, were they put one in a 2kxl, but it was a internal scsi multi card..... is it possible 2 hook one up that is not scsi? I don't know the internal componets of the MPC. Thank 4 tha help

there are only about 3 model card readers around anymore that are compatible. and the only one that is readilly availible is the factory drive from vst or mpcstuff. the downside of that drive is the price tag. but the up side is the complete install kit is included as well as a cf card. i have personally bought a number of drives for less than $30 that have worked. but good luck finding one at that price. the most reliable option is the vst drive.

the 10000 rpm drives are the loud ones. the 7200 rpm drives are considerably quieter. imho a 2gb drive is more than enough to store a couple standard pgm files and all the songs you could think of.