Sub-forum for discussion about the DAWs and mobile apps that you use with your MPCs
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By Blue Haze Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:47 am
By exporting midi into logic I mean you can either use ultrabeat or exs24 as the sound source afterwards you wished. Depends on your drum library and preference to record audio or midi sequences. Either will do it is up to you. Some have extensive drum libraries set up in their mpcs programs and outboard preamps, and such so they prefer to record their drums by audio into Logic studio. If you have the same in your software samplers then all you need is your sequence recorded.

It isn`t difficult to decide just you need to step back and look at what is it you don`t know oppose to what you already know.

You will lay out instruments to a track to eq and balance, make an arrangement, and a mixdown to stereo tracks which is where logic comes to play plus as a virtual instruments and mixing board.

The main instrument to play is your mpc pads and its sequencer if you wish. All in all your preference comes into play do you feel better playing the mpc to create your beats and record or using a midi keyboard or midi pads playing and sequencing in logic. Both are sequencers except mpc has built in controllers and little latency playing in to its internal sequencer.

First though have you set up your CoreMIDI in Apple correctly?

I play out a drum sequence on my mpc first with its sequencer. Then I sync it up to logic with the mpc as a slave and listen to the levels and record it as audio though my 8 outputs with (no count in) . Once it is inside logic I continue building from there using logics`s sequencer with the mpc set to off. Like before i repeat if I want to use my drum samplers in logic ultrabeat, battery 3 or etc I record in a midi track and finish everything in logic.
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By tomf Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:01 pm
ok getting a better understanding of things now, i hope.

I totally see the exporting to midi thing, although i won't do this, i much prefer to do my beats and samples in the mpc, and then export those tracks to audio and have them in logic on audio channels (obviously).

Then for example i will play some bass or keys with a synth in logic, my only concern here is that the timing is slightly out because like i said before - the 2 metronomes - the mpc one and the logic one, don't play in sync, so even if i turn the mpc off from slave mode so i can't hear its metronome, the logic one will be playing slightly out of time to the one i used in the mpc to do my beats on.

I hope that makes sense and you can see my problem.

I do already have the mpc quantize groove templates in logic, so to get my synths in logic to have the same bump as my beats i will obviously use the same quantize values that i used in the mpc (i useually use 16/ths - 60% - 0 amount)

When you say is your coreMidi setup correctly, i can honestly say i don't know. I don't know what the correct setup for this way of working should be.

If you see my previous post (where i put the pictures of my midi prefs in logic and my midi prefs in the mpc), maybe you could look at that and see something i don't.

Thanks for your time and patience and help, it really means a lot to me, i'm very grateful for your help and advice.
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By tomf Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:46 pm
Yes i do lord toranaga, i have a midi cable going out of my mpc (plugged into the A port on the back of my mpc) into a usb midi interface, and a midi cable going out of the usb midi interface into my mpc (midi in 2 on the back of my mpc).

(i also have a midi cable going from my access virus polar synth, midi out, to my midi in 1 on the back of my mpc).
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By tomf Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:22 pm
Yes i have just tried that sync guide you posted, and that was even worse than i had it before. It was totally out of time with logic, i would press rec + play and it would skip the first beat, or sometimes it would hang at the 3rd beat then start on a second beat, all sorts of weird stuff was happening.

I followed the tutorials to the letter and still no joy.
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By faze1 Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:39 pm
Hope this hasnt been said already but you need to put 2 blank bars in the beginning of the mpc sequence and 2 blank bars in the beginning of logic. (In the mpc just create a new 2bar sequence to throw in front of your other sequences) This gives Logic and MPC time needed to sync. Once im done composing my beat in the mpc, I convert my sequences to 1 song with a 2 bar blank sequence in the beginning. I sync to my DAW via midi time code. Make sure the mpc and logic have the same bpm b4 you begin tracking out, and that the mpc tempo change option is turned off if not needed. (put cursor over the tempo and press window). I have JJOS2xl Hope this helps
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By tomf Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:44 am
Absolutely fantastic advice faze1, that could help me loads, i will be trying this later on when i get home.

I'm very close to achieving what i want, just need to iron out a few glitches.

Do you think because i'm using the akai O.S 1.23 that this could be why i'm having a few issues syncing up with logic?