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By mattian Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:42 pm
Hello

How do you work in Pro Tools using the MPC as a master?
I mean I've connected it using only MTC, only MMC or both and in all the cases it drifts around 12ms after 40bars

How do you solve that problem?

Thank you
By mattian Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:08 am
man, I've followed exactly these settings and the one from your video, also you should try to measure yourself if you get the same result I got

with the MPC as master, connected using MTC, after 5 minutes drifts 45ms, what I've done for now is lowering the Pro Tools metronome to 119.9816 (if I remember well, or so),

I recorded the MPC click in an audio track, then I took the first click and placed it exactly over the bar in the PT grid, then I've zoomed to the last click and lowered the metronome tempo enough to have the last click over the bar

Doing so, I have less of a ms of change in 5 min

Also, I've noticed it doesn't change much changing the buffer, I noticed the all the track is a little anticipated (when I use higher buffer) but we are talking of few ms, but from the start to the end the difference remains 1ms.. or less

I would like to know if you can get really 120 bpm on the mpc match the 120 bpm of pro tools

Also another problem I found is that MMC doesn't work, if I set MMC properly (enabling the slave MMC in PT and sending MMC from the mpc out) and I also set MTC, then I engage record in PT and when I press play in the MPC the pro tools recording button gets disengaged..
By Clint Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:50 pm
mattian wrote:with the MPC as master, connected using MTC, after 5 minutes drifts 45ms


Almost human then, GET OVER IT, its barely noticeable. ???
By mattian Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:14 pm
if you have drum patterns, loops, in your daw, you'll definitely hear it, because they go straight, while the mpc shift

What I've done is setting up a template where I always record the click from the mpc

I thought I can record the click at the beginning, after getting the idea on the MPC and decided the tempo, I will open a new Pro Tools or Ableton project and record the click, for like 10 minutes or more, then I adjust the tempo in the DAW so that it matches the first and the last click, the other will be lined up respecting the MPC swing

In that way I'll have all the other tracks lined up with a tolerance of around 1ms..

After having finished the project, I'll record again all the MPC stuff and the things sequenced by the MPC, and I'll adjust again the DAW tempo to the recorded click.. and I'll turn off the external sync so I can track using the internal tempo of the daw, then I'll do the recording of instruments like guitars, and vocals

What do you think?

What I'd like to understand is everyone who uses the MPC2000xl has around the same drift, I mean you can record 5 mins at 120bpm and see if at bar 153 you have around 45 samples of lag

Because I found Ableton has exactly the same lag at 153, so seems it's the MPC own tempo which is different to the one in PT and Ableton (actually this proves PT and Ableton has the same tempo)

If you want to do the test, keep in mind I used 48k sample rate, and slaved Pro Tools with the MPC set to master.
I've used MTC, obviously.

Then, last thing I want to find out is why I can't control Pro Tools with the MMC, like I do in Ableton, I mean, I can control Pro Tools with the MMC for everything, except the fact that after engaged record in Pro Tools, I press play in the MPC to start the recording and the rec button is disengaged, that means to me something is overlapped.. something that when I press play in the mpc send the command to disengage the rec button, seems like Pro Tools receive a fast "stop message" before going in play, but I can't find out why that happens