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By Housemaster Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:11 am
Have you ever noticed this thing tweaking the length of your samples, making them longer than they should by about 0.1 BPM? I'm just using it to lower the sample/bit rate of my samples
By dryad-66 Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:17 am
Housemaster wrote:Have you ever noticed this thing tweaking the length of your samples, making them longer than they should by about 0.1 BPM? I'm just using it to lower the sample/bit rate of my samples

Its got a mind of its own.Its got complex transwave synthesis so nothing suprizes me.Strange :twisted:
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By peterpiper Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:31 pm
0.1 BPM longer ???

There is no 0,x beats per minute. It always have to be a minimum of 1 before the point. 0,5 beats per minute ain't no longer "per minute", but 2 minutes.

BPM is not a time measurement but a tempo measurement. BPM can be faster or slower but not longer. Sure you can translate it to seconds but.....


peacee
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By nogginj Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:23 pm
Sure you can translate it to seconds but.....

....the EPS has no concept of BPM in regards to samples. So peters got a point.

So yea...this sounds suspect. Maybe you are just not sure what exactly it's doing, it is a very complex machine and there are tons of places where you can screw something up that affects something else.

I mean the modulation params include a modulation amt AND a range....expressed in K and Bytes?!?!?!
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By Housemaster Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:59 pm
well whatever, it took my 88.075 sample and turned it into 87.968. I had re-timestretch the sh*t. All I'm doing is recording into it then recording what comes out so I don't know what could've happened...

EDIT: fixed it mang, changed it from 36 kHz sampling rate to 39. Perfect length now
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By peterpiper Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:02 pm
Housemaster wrote:well whatever, it took my 88.075 sample and turned it into 87.968. I had re-timestretch the sh*t. All I'm doing is recording into it then recording what comes out so I don't know what could've happened...

EDIT: fixed it mang, changed it from 36 kHz sampling rate to 39. Perfect length now



Ok let me know if I get it right. You got a sample with 88.075 bpm, sample this to your eps with a low samplerate, record it back to your daw and then it is 87,968 bpm ?

My question is. How do you measure the bpm? 0,1 bpm is near to nothing when it comes to measuring bpm by the length of the sample. Your sample could be ....lets say 78,0 bpm (measured by the length and beats in the sample) but if you cut 0,001 or 0,002 sec at the end of this sample, the calculation will give you 78,1 bpm.
So I guess your sample isn't faster but just 0,001 sec longer caused by "faulty" truncation or something like that. This can happen for example if the sample selection in your software is set to hit the next zerocrossing. Zerocrossings wont be exactly the same after external sampling.
One way to get your sample back to the 88,075 bpm would be: add 0,00? of silence to the end of the sample. You can experiment with that to get exactly 88,075 or just leave it when its close to it. I promise, you wont hear this 0,00? silence.

You can read about the method of calculating bpm in this thread

viewtopic.php?p=1324062#p1324062

peace
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By nogginj Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:06 am
this sounds like user error.

how could such a successful sample have ever sold a single unit if it magically changed sample lengths of stuff you sampled? and since 1988 nobody noticed?

don't take that as an insult, it's a super complex machine and not always the easiest thing to comprehend, since things are hidden behind so many layers of menus.