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By parasick Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:16 pm
I saw a similar question and answer posted here pertaining to the es model of the motif, but no matter what i try my sounds still change. Here is the problem:
I have a motif rack xs that is connected to my mpc 2500 le through a midi cord. The cord is connected to the motif's midi in and the mpc's midi out A.
When I record my piano sound from the motif into track 1 of the mpc, Then switch the motif sound to drums so that I can lay a drum track in the mpc on track 2, the piano that i laid in track one turns into drums.

I have troubleshooted and already did the following:
1. Switch type to midi
2. program to no. 1
3. midi to 1A, 2A, depending on the track
4. hit window on no. 1 and turned bank select to yes (also tried no)
msb to 63
lsb to zero
transmit program chnages is on yes (also tried the off position)

I changed the receive channels for the rack to omni.

Anything will help, thanks.
By _Stilo_ Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:54 pm
That-1-DJ wrote:I don't think that you can do what you are trying to do, because from my understanding the rack versions of the motif DO NOT have a sequencer.

He doesn't want a sequencer. He wants to put his Motif into Multi Mode.
By studio4942 Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:01 pm
parasick wrote:I saw a similar question and answer posted here pertaining to the es model of the motif, but no matter what i try my sounds still change. Here is the problem:
I have a motif rack xs that is connected to my mpc 2500 le through a midi cord. The cord is connected to the motif's midi in and the mpc's midi out A.
When I record my piano sound from the motif into track 1 of the mpc, Then switch the motif sound to drums so that I can lay a drum track in the mpc on track 2, the piano that i laid in track one turns into drums.

I have troubleshooted and already did the following:
1. Switch type to midi
2. program to no. 1
3. midi to 1A, 2A, depending on the track
4. hit window on no. 1 and turned bank select to yes (also tried no)
msb to 63
lsb to zero
transmit program chnages is on yes (also tried the off position)

I changed the receive channels for the rack to omni.

Anything will help, thanks.


That-1-DJ wrote:I don't think that you can do what you are trying to do, because from my understanding the rack versions of the motif DO NOT have a sequencer. Not 100% sure though.


This post is cracking me up. You got top notch gear but no clue. Not playing ya homie, but your question and description of the problem and then ol' boys answer made me laugh out loud.

I'm sure you'll be bangin out heaterz in no time. Do ya thang!
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By dabmeister Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:46 pm
Follow Stilo's suggestion...That's the only way to multi-track your sounds.

Or you can track each sound itself into a DAW, which would make things a h*ll of a lot easier.
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By That-1-DJ Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:41 am
studio4942 wrote:
parasick wrote:I saw a similar question and answer posted here pertaining to the es model of the motif, but no matter what i try my sounds still change. Here is the problem:
I have a motif rack xs that is connected to my mpc 2500 le through a midi cord. The cord is connected to the motif's midi in and the mpc's midi out A.
When I record my piano sound from the motif into track 1 of the mpc, Then switch the motif sound to drums so that I can lay a drum track in the mpc on track 2, the piano that i laid in track one turns into drums.

I have troubleshooted and already did the following:
1. Switch type to midi
2. program to no. 1
3. midi to 1A, 2A, depending on the track
4. hit window on no. 1 and turned bank select to yes (also tried no)
msb to 63
lsb to zero
transmit program chnages is on yes (also tried the off position)

I changed the receive channels for the rack to omni.

Anything will help, thanks.


That-1-DJ wrote:I don't think that you can do what you are trying to do, because from my understanding the rack versions of the motif DO NOT have a sequencer. Not 100% sure though.


This post is cracking me up. You got top notch gear but no clue. Not playing ya homie, but your question and description of the problem and then ol' boys answer made me laugh out loud.

I'm sure you'll be bangin out heaterz in no time. Do ya thang!


OK Smart @ss, Since you are Mr. Know It All. Tell Me, How do you use more than one sound from the Motif If you are not in Song/Pattern Mode (Sequence Mode). With my MPC 2500 and my Motif ES6 I am able to Use 16 different voices from the ES6 With everything(MIDI DATA) being recorded into the MPC. Not talking about using Direct Record. You better Know the answer PUNK! :lol:
By studio4942 Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:39 pm
That-1-DJ wrote:
studio4942 wrote:
parasick wrote:I saw a similar question and answer posted here pertaining to the es model of the motif, but no matter what i try my sounds still change. Here is the problem:
I have a motif rack xs that is connected to my mpc 2500 le through a midi cord. The cord is connected to the motif's midi in and the mpc's midi out A.
When I record my piano sound from the motif into track 1 of the mpc, Then switch the motif sound to drums so that I can lay a drum track in the mpc on track 2, the piano that i laid in track one turns into drums.

I have troubleshooted and already did the following:
1. Switch type to midi
2. program to no. 1
3. midi to 1A, 2A, depending on the track
4. hit window on no. 1 and turned bank select to yes (also tried no)
msb to 63
lsb to zero
transmit program chnages is on yes (also tried the off position)

I changed the receive channels for the rack to omni.

Anything will help, thanks.


That-1-DJ wrote:I don't think that you can do what you are trying to do, because from my understanding the rack versions of the motif DO NOT have a sequencer. Not 100% sure though.


This post is cracking me up. You got top notch gear but no clue. Not playing ya homie, but your question and description of the problem and then ol' boys answer made me laugh out loud.

I'm sure you'll be bangin out heaterz in no time. Do ya thang!


OK Smart @ss, Since you are Mr. Know It All. Tell Me, How do you use more than one sound from the Motif If you are not in Song/Pattern Mode (Sequence Mode). With my MPC 2500 and my Motif ES6 I am able to Use 16 different voices from the ES6 With everything(MIDI DATA) being recorded into the MPC. Not talking about using Direct Record. You better Know the answer PUNK! :lol:


Haha…

You need to be in Multi Mode when using an external sequencer with the rack.

I’m just fuggin with you guys. I’m fairly new to the motif (rack) myself so I’m not too far removed from asking some “what in da hell…” questions myself. I’ve used Roland gear for years so the Motif ES rack was like a foreign language to me at first.
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By That-1-DJ Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:59 pm
What exactly do you mean when you say MULTI MODE? ??? Once again what he is trying to do is to have two voices play from the motif at once, While it is controlled/recorded by the MPC. Like I said before the rack versions have no sequencer so therefore I do not think that it can be achieved. I have it working fine, but I have the ES6 which does have a 16 trk sequencer so therefore I can create a song using all 16 trks from the motif, 16 trks from my Triton and still have 32 tracks left from the MPC, while controlling everything from the MPC. That would suck if it is not possible to use more than one voice at a time when using a rack module, I was thinking about picking up the MOTIF XS RACK, But if I can only use one track at a time along with my MPC, I guess I'll be buying the board itself. Good Luck To those of you who have the Rack Module, Please let me know if you figure it out!
http://www.motifator.com/racks/rack.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9E5Zx6Yayg
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By dabmeister Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:30 pm
That-1-DJ wrote:What exactly do you mean when you say MULTI MODE? ???


Multi Mode is the exact same thing as how your ES6 functions but without the onboard sequencer. It's safe to say that most rack module versions of anything lack an onboard sequencer, but will have the ability to "multi-track" the 16 midi channels it has.

The only exception to such rack versions with a sequencer would be something like the Kurzweil K series or Ensoniq series.
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By That-1-DJ Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:49 pm
That's what I thought it might have been, But I tried to do that in VOICE MODE on the ES6 and did not have any luck, I have tomorrow off from work so I might mess around with it a little bit, The Voice mode and performance mode usually sound brighter than the exact same voices in song/pattern MODE, I know that it is because of the effects, and I know that you can apply those effects into song/pattern mode, But I do think that it would be easier to do it straight from VOICE MODE. If anyone knows how please TELL! :mrgreen:
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By LunaticBastard Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:38 am
its called performance mode. and for the guy talking trash about no sequencer. read your f-in manual and maybe you would know the basics. i dont even own this machine and i know this. you can do 128 performances with like 4 layers on each channel. each midi channel will be independent out of the mains and controled by the mpc