Stupid to purchase an expensive DJ mixer for sampling?

I used to sample strictly from vinyls, but these days, digital formats or youtube have got to be my main sources. The quality kinda sucks but my room situation doesn't allow me to store hundreds of vinyls. Then, I just wonder if I get an high-end mixer like Rane MPC2014 or Urei stuff which have a high reputation for their fat and warm sound, the sampling quality dramatically gets to be beatmaking-friendly? Tell me your opinion. Thanks.

my personal opinion would be that it is stupid to spend those kind of sheets on an expensive DJ mixer like that....

there are plenty of far cheaper options you could look into if you are just looking to process samples....or even free options if you just look towards software EQ / FX....

I've never used the SP303 or SP404, but I've got an SP202.....

the 303 & 404 both have 'Vinyl Simulation'

https://www.boss.info/us/products/sp-303/

eatdonuts wrote:I used to sample strictly from vinyls, but these days, digital formats or youtube have got to be my main sources. The quality kinda sucks but my room situation doesn't allow me to store hundreds of vinyls. Then, I just wonder if I get an high-end mixer like Rane MPC2014 or Urei stuff which have a high reputation for their fat and warm sound, the sampling quality dramatically gets to be beatmaking-friendly? Tell me your opinion. Thanks.

No, no vintage mixers will help on what you are trying to accomplish. That's for sure.

they would help, yes. any additional gain stage is going to add color.

are there cheaper ways to get the same thing? yes. a cheaper mixer or maybe just an outboard pre-amp are other options.

tapedeck wrote:they would help, yes. any additional gain stage is going to add color.

are there cheaper ways to get the same thing? yes. a cheaper mixer or maybe just an outboard pre-amp are other options.

I don't believe that sampling from YouTube via boutique DJ mixer would make sound "fat" or "warm."

JVC wrote:

tapedeck wrote:they would help, yes. any additional gain stage is going to add color.

are there cheaper ways to get the same thing? yes. a cheaper mixer or maybe just an outboard pre-amp are other options.

I don't believe that sampling from YouTube via boutique DJ mixer would make sound "fat" or "warm."

it would definitely help.

How would it help? Putting sugar on top of a piece of sh*t doesn't change that it's still a piece of sh*t.

It would be more cost effective to get one of the Mackie VLZ series mixers to handle the functions he is looking for.

richie wrote:How would it help? Putting sugar on top of a piece of sh*t doesn't change that it's still a piece of sh*t.

It would be more cost effective to get one of the Mackie VLZ series mixers to handle the functions he is looking for.

you missed the part where i said there are many options.

point being, yes you can take a clip off youtube, run it through some other shit, and if you know what yer doing, i bet you could make fire.

is a $1500 dj mixer going to do it for you? no.

ps. i love those mackie vlz's ... but i do not think they are particularly good for colouring sound. they do but its not as nice as say a cheaper ecler smac. the preamps in those things are incredible.

Thanks for all. I heard many legendary producers like Pete Rock eqed/filtered sound on dj mixers before sampling it, and I just want to follow the process because it's more intuitive than doing so after sampling. Any alternative gadgets are welcome.

eatdonuts wrote:many legendary producers like Pete Rock eqed/filtered sound on dj mixers before sampling it, and I just want to follow the process

Without meaning to sound harsh, I doubt many legendary producers 'process' had anything to do with youtube...or even CD's for that matter...

I once made a beat from sampling off Youtube and it came out pretty heavy....but I never fugged with it and i never did it again because I felt like a toy...

If you want the vinyl sound, I think you just need to sample off vinyl.....you don't have to become a vinyl hoarder like a lot of us if you don't have the space......but like Richie said.....putting sugar on shi*t doesn't change what it is....

yall telling this dude to not sample off youtube sound like the same guys back in the 80s / 90s who would look down at sampling off old records cause the fidelity is not as good as using a real studio.

tapedeck wrote:yall telling this dude to not sample off youtube sound like the same guys back in the 80s / 90s who would look down at sampling off old records cause the fidelity is not as good as using a real studio.

I'm not telling him anything........by his own admission:

The quality kinda sucks

its the whole point of his thread

don't get a DJ mixer to EQ sounds... get an EQ to EQ sounds.

mr_debauch wrote:don't get a DJ mixer to EQ sounds... get an EQ to EQ sounds.

Right, and it can be even done on computer (EQing, saturation, etc.), before you feed it to your sampler.
I've never sampled from YouTube..., actually I have, but it was a short vocal clip though.

eatdonuts wrote:... I heard many legendary producers like Pete Rock eqed/filtered sound on DJ mixers before sampling it, and I just want to follow the process because it's more intuitive than doing so after sampling. Any alternative gadgets are welcome.

DJ mixers (Numark and GLi DJ mixers) in 80s' and 90s' often had 5 to 7 band EQ build-in. I think they were just using what they had.

Might be off-topic, but Pete Roack was using SP1200 and Akai S series samplers, which had unique sounding low-pass filter. Also, many of 90s' hip hop songs were recorded on tapes, and some were even tracked on cassette. I heard that Wu Tang's first LP was recorded with TASCAM MTR.