For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.
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By aaonli Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:44 pm
Don't use it to track beats. Just for recording and sampling. Maybe I can help you anyway?
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By BB SOUND Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:53 am
djrespect hi, are you trying to get your beats onto your computer?
be a little more specific, software ,computer?

I use to have that same card and I use to get my tracks onto my computer fine with out a problem.

aaonli , why should he NOT track with this card? (you are confusing me) :)
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By aaron Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:23 am
i use one
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By djrespect Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:16 am
thanx 4 tha replies!
I have no problems with recording audio material...I normally just record the whole beat and then master it.
But now (since more than a month) I'm trying to track my beats into cubase VST 32.5. It all works and my mpc syncs up to my computer; the only problem is that the recorded tracks are just a few ms off time!
So I just wanna know if this is caused by my soundcard or not...
I wanna cop a soundcard with more inputs anyway, but if it's not the soundcard causing this sht I won't have luck with a new soundcard neither...
I have a 2,4 GHz processor and 256MB RAM
(I also tried in a cubase forum)
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By ikke Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:27 pm
Its a cubase issue. If you track audio, there should be no latency (those few milliseconds you talk about, are called latency) I think the Audiophile has a minimum of 8 ms of latency.
You should run the audio sthraight into Cubase. So the audio may not pass thru VST and all. If you run audio thru VST, you must enable direct monitoring, if Im correctly. And this is a setting you need to change in Cubase. Somewhere in the preferences, I assume. Refere to the manual. Search for 'direct monitoring'. Its all there in the pdf.
Direct monitoring only applies to audio. So MIDI always has latency. Even just 0.0111 ms. Every synth/sampler groovebox has some latency. Not hearable tho.
Last edited by ikke on Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:33 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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By ikke Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:31 pm
The latency can be changed in the Audiophile setting box or in Cubase. Lower value means less latency so faster response when you hit a MIDI key on your keyboard. If you set your latency to the minimum, more CPU will be used.
Normally you cant hear the difference. If its below 10-12 ms. So I guess you should lower your latency to a 128/256 samples. Or 64 in best case. Dunno.. havent had the Audiophile myself. I tested one tho and looked pretty stable on XP.
Setting and adjusting Cubase VST can be a pain in the arzzz.
Good luck.
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By ikke Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:12 pm
Dude.... thats a latency issue! ;) You must have running your incoming audio thru Cubase VST.
Otherwise its your HD that cant follow, but I dont think so..

Its all in the manuals and all over the internet. Just type - "cubase vst latency issue/ problem" - in Google.

ps, some weird fellas on the cubase.net forum :lol:


but once again, Cubase VST32 can be a pain in the arss! Try to get a secondhand copy of Nuendo 1 or Logic 5. Much, much better!
I started out using Cubase VST32 years ago and I had nothing but troubles with it!
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By djrespect Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:43 pm
I thought about switching to protools....but that sht is damn expensive!
I really like cubase and if it's not REALLY necessary I'ma stick to it.
But I just can't understand what latency has to do with this, since every track is recorded different (a few ms too late or too early).
Anyway; I'll try a google search.....
Thanx, fella
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By BB SOUND Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:09 pm
djrespect wrote:I thought about switching to protools....but that sht is damn expensive!
I really like cubase and if it's not REALLY necessary I'ma stick to it.
But I just can't understand what latency has to do with this, since every track is recorded different (a few ms too late or too early).
Anyway; I'll try a google search.....
Thanx, fella


dj, listen, if you track into cubase, make sure that thier are no plugins like waves for example in your input channel or in the main output channel.

thats all I can really think of right now, also, why dont you just upgrade to cubase sx. If not, then just call up steinberg and ask them what can be your problem.

oh one more thing you may have overlooked. check to make sure that the asio version of the sound card driver is selected.

By Ayudo Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:01 am
Maybe you should make your problem REALLY clear...
"my tracks are offtime" is much too general.

As I understood it, you try to do multitrack-recording. one track would have 10, another 20 and another like 30ms latency.
So they are not offtime but timeshifted to each other and so running asynchronious. (the bassdrum-track wouldnt fit to the snare track and so on)
right?

Maybe now you get answers you are looking for...
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By djrespect Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:05 pm
EXACTLY as you said, ayudo!

and to make it REALLY clear:
here's a pic of the arrange window with a snare track recorded three times:
http://www.b-posse.at/downloads/Andow/arrange.jpg
this is the first snare in the audio editor on the three tracks:
http://www.b-posse.at/downloads/Andow/1st.jpg
and here's the last snare (16th bar) on the three tracks:
http://www.b-posse.at/downloads/Andow/16th.jpg

as you can see every track is timeshifted different which is getting worse with the time...
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By BB SOUND Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:16 pm
dj , how is it being synced? time code or midclock? never did mention that.
also make the mpc the slave. sync it to midiclock insted of time code if its even set that way.

By mkbaproductions Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:28 pm
use midi clock as a sync reference and cubase as master. AUTO PUNCH IN in cubase. WHen you click play in cubase, the mpc plays along and it records automatically aslong as you have the punch in set correctly!!!!