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Good keys!

By deftonelepard Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:34 am
All right , Ive learned alot of the techniques that it takes to make A beat. NOT a song,
but what I haven't learned is how to get good one hit drums.I Know I can sample off a record and
trim down, Ive done it ,but it takes a minute. Although I pulled a sick roll the other day you couldn't make.

So Im looking to buy a keyboard (yamaha mm6) What do You guy's think will it give me everything
I need like fat drum sounds,Bass sounds,And what ever else I might need , is it over kill, or not enough?

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By mightydoosh Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:29 pm
deftonelepard wrote:what I haven't learned is how to get good one hit drums. I Know I can sample off a record and trim down, Ive done it ,but it takes a minute.


sample good one hit drums from records which you like the drums or good sample cd's or search the net. it all takes time. you could download a sample set of the mm6 from the net and load into mpc in minutes so theres no point buying an mm6 just for better beats, the mpc is much more flexible for that.

deftonelepard wrote:So Im looking to buy a keyboard (yamaha mm6) What do You guy's think will it give me everything
I need like fat drum sounds,Bass sounds,And what ever else I might need , is it over kill, or not enough?


depends what you are after you'd have to demo it first to see if you like the sounds, its the motif soundset so it will be pretty good. a synth of some sort is a good addition cos you could use the mpc for the beats and the synth for basses and synth sounds etc.
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imo too

By Lampdog Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:11 pm
mightydoosh wrote:sounds to me like you got the mpc, used it for 5 minutes, decided the sounds werent wat you were expecting, couldnt be arsed sampling, and think buying something else will answer all your problems....thats not how it works, learn the mpc inside out first and then you will KNOW wat you need next rather than guessing.


+1
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Re: Good keys!

By Lampdog Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:22 pm
deftonelepard wrote:So Im looking to buy a keyboard (yamaha mm6) What do You guy's think will it give me everything
I need like fat drum sounds,Bass sounds,And what ever else I might need , is it over kill, or not enough?



no one can answer that but you. only you know what you need and want, see if you can demo the machine somewhere and check it out. people have different opinions on overkill sounds whatever, only you know what you are looking for though.

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By deftonelepard Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:09 pm
I here what your saying, And after A full on session today(its' been to hot to blow glass , so I'm inside with ac all day.)
I definetly feel you can do every thing on this machine ,Although I think having all those variations of sounds right at your finger tips would also be sweet.
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Re: Good keys!

By BostonGreen Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:39 pm
deftonelepard wrote:IAlthough I think having all those variations of sounds right at your finger tips would also be sweet.


The MPC is a sampler/drum machine, not a synthesiser. Having said that, by sampling, you can have ANY sound at your fingertips.

Get creative.

The MPC is not a 'turn on, press button A, hold shift, press button B, produce top ten hit', its an instrument. How good or how bad that instrument sounds depends on the player.

Like any instrument, you have to invest the time to get the results. If you can't be assed to spend a mere 1 minute capturing, trimming and chopping a sample, then a sampler is not for you.

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By 1987 Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:46 pm
BostonGreen wrote:
deftonelepard wrote:IAlthough I think having all those variations of sounds right at your finger tips would also be sweet.


The MPC is a sampler/drum machine, not a synthesiser. Having said that, by sampling, you can have ANY sound at your fingertips.

Get creative.

The MPC is not a 'turn on, press button A, hold shift, press button B, produce top ten hit', its an instrument. How good or how bad that instrument sounds depends on the player.

Like any instrument, you have to invest the time to get the results. If you can't be assed to spend a mere 1 minute capturing, trimming and chopping a sample, then a sampler is not for you.


Well said...invest time = results!
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Re: Good keys!

By Ras Desta Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:32 am
deftonelepard wrote:So Im looking to buy a keyboard (yamaha mm6) What do You guy's think will it give me everything
I need like fat drum sounds,Bass sounds,And what ever else I might need , is it over kill, or not enough?

If all you're looking for is bass tones and drum hits then you'd probably be better off buying a few sample packs. I find that most keyboard drum sounds are pretty lame by themselves, and usually require quite a bit of layering and tweaking to make them sound "fat," or decent. And many of the bass patches I've used on keyboards have been a bit disappointing. With a couple sample packs, you might end up with a decent library without spending more than 50 bucks. And look around the internet before you go buying anything because you can find gigs and gigs of samples for free (both legal and otherwise :wink: ) http://sampleswap.org/

And like many many people before me have said...do your research :) . Good luck, homeshkillet
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By dminor Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:04 pm
Save yourself a lot of time, cheat...go to ebay and look for mpc drums and I'm sure you'll find plenty of cheap drum sounds.

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By 1987 Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:01 am
dminor wrote:Save yourself a lot of time, cheat...go to ebay and look for mpc drums and I'm sure you'll find plenty of cheap drum sounds.


you cant be serious.
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Re: Good keys!

By dminor Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:10 am
Yes, I am. Most of the drum sounds that you'll find these days have been used a million times over. So quit making it into something bigger than it should be and just get a set of sounds off ebay for less than $10 (or go with something more expensive like "Premier Beats & Nstrumentals") and get on with the music making.

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By 1987 Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:20 am
Damn that's a negative attitude.

I'll keep searching for those unique drums instead of falling for the convenience of presets.
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By dminor Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:28 pm
1987 wrote:Damn that's a negative attitude.


How so? Believe me when I say that the majority of the drums you've heard have been used before.

Most producers will use extremely familiar drum kits and then layer the sounds to make new sounds.

Here's how I see it...Production isn't a pissing contest, because the end listener will never know how hard you searched to find that perfect rimshot off a german import LP from 1965.

Don't get me wrong, I used to be one of those guys who wanted to find the illest drums from some crazy sample source, but the more I thought about it, I realized that i was spending more time looking for the pieces than I was putting the puzzle together. And in the end, its more about the puzzle.

So I say get the tools you need to make the music you want and don't worry so much about finding that needle in a haystack, instead focus on your technique/musicality/sequencing.

And lastly, if you're still one of those people who live for the search, then do you.

Re: Good keys!

By 1987 Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:57 pm
dminor wrote:
1987 wrote:Damn that's a negative attitude.


How so? Believe me when I say that the majority of the drums you've heard have been used before.

Most producers will use extremely familiar drum kits and then layer the sounds to make new sounds.

Here's how I see it...Production isn't a pissing contest, because the end listener will never know how hard you searched to find that perfect rimshot off a german import LP from 1965.

Don't get me wrong, I used to be one of those guys who wanted to find the illest drums from some crazy sample source, but the more I thought about it, I realized that i was spending more time looking for the pieces than I was putting the puzzle together. And in the end, its more about the puzzle.

So I say get the tools you need to make the music you want and don't worry so much about finding that needle in a haystack, instead focus on your technique/musicality/sequencing.

And lastly, if you're still one of those people who live for the search, then do you.


That's decent. You keep doing your thing, bro.
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