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By Coz Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:20 pm
Yeah, insert any piece of established software and you will probaby be better off.
By jpeg Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:29 pm
Coz wrote:Yeah, insert any piece of established software and you will probaby be better off.



every so-called established piece of software was once a newcommer in a year this software will also be established specially when the development team actually listen to the software users
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By Coz Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:58 pm
I think you need to get off the kangz nuts and wait and see if their products are any good or not! Just cause they keep saying they are going to "change the game", it doesn't actually mean shit until they release something... When they do I will give it a fair chance, but I'm not going to assume it will be anything special until I have a play around with it.
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By saintjoe Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:34 pm
I have the software, checking it out now...it is a young software no doubt, but the workflow is easy. It's really setup to work like a hardware piece of gear.

More reviews and videos will be coming soon after I spend some time with it, just got it yesterday.
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By LvngDead Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:58 pm
Wait hold on one second. What is up with this "8 internal and 8 external" system?

You only get 8 midi tracks within the hardware unit?
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By inflict3 Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:44 pm
saintjoe wrote:I have the software, checking it out now...it is a young software no doubt, but the workflow is easy. It's really setup to work like a hardware piece of gear.

More reviews and videos will be coming soon after I spend some time with it, just got it yesterday.


nice... let me know how it is man..
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By saintjoe Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:16 pm
inflict3 wrote:
saintjoe wrote:I have the software, checking it out now...it is a young software no doubt, but the workflow is easy. It's really setup to work like a hardware piece of gear.

More reviews and videos will be coming soon after I spend some time with it, just got it yesterday.


nice... let me know how it is man..



no doubt, so far, it's pretty dope man. I like the sounds, I was thinking it would be a lot of "dirty south" sounds but it's not. There are some, but there is a lot more.

editing the internal sounds is as easy as editing your own stuff so it's pretty flexible in that regards.

I'm still learning and messing with it, but it's pretty quick to get it up and going.

I'm waiting for them to put the pdf manual online with all the lil tips and tricks for using it.

I'm already pulling my own library in to make kits and stuff, so it's easy to do that as well, once you understand their file system layout. you basically have a general "sample" folder where you put your samples, then when you make new kits those samples and folders will show up.

I haven't sampled into it yet, mostly because I usually don't work that way.

Chopping is done like on an asr where you set the start/end points and use the same sample across the pads with different start and end points.

auto chop is supposed to be coming in the "pro" version though.

I'll keep ya posted.
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By Fatt Laced Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:29 pm
saintjoe wrote:
inflict3 wrote:
saintjoe wrote:I have the software, checking it out now...it is a young software no doubt, but the workflow is easy. It's really setup to work like a hardware piece of gear.

More reviews and videos will be coming soon after I spend some time with it, just got it yesterday.


nice... let me know how it is man..



no doubt, so far, it's pretty dope man. I like the sounds, I was thinking it would be a lot of "dirty south" sounds but it's not. There are some, but there is a lot more.

editing the internal sounds is as easy as editing your own stuff so it's pretty flexible in that regards.

I'm still learning and messing with it, but it's pretty quick to get it up and going.

I'm waiting for them to put the pdf manual online with all the lil tips and tricks for using it.

I'm already pulling my own library in to make kits and stuff, so it's easy to do that as well, once you understand their file system layout. you basically have a general "sample" folder where you put your samples, then when you make new kits those samples and folders will show up.

I haven't sampled into it yet, mostly because I usually don't work that way.

Chopping is done like on an asr where you set the start/end points and use the same sample across the pads with different start and end points.

auto chop is supposed to be coming in the "pro" version though.

I'll keep ya posted.


good to hear!

LvngDead wrote:Wait hold on one second. What is up with this "8 internal and 8 external" system?

You only get 8 midi tracks within the hardware unit?


^^yeh what's up with that shiit, that seems like a rather big draw back with all these specs..?
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By saintjoe Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:35 pm
I don't know about that one either, trying to figure it out myself...if I hear anything I'll let you all know.

Maybe they are doing it because they let you mute pads and not just tracks? I'm not too sure on that one.

And I wouldn't want to be "forced" to use 8 external tracks when I may not even need them.

I'd like to distribute my tracks as I see fit lol.
By jpeg Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:17 pm
Coz wrote:I think you need to get off the kangz nuts and wait and see if their products are any good or not! Just cause they keep saying they are going to "change the game", it doesn't actually mean **** until they release something... When they do I will give it a fair chance, but I'm not going to assume it will be anything special until I have a play around with it.



nothing to do with jocking im basing my views off the kind of products ive always wanted to use and what i have seen of what these dudes have created.

I think u should stop downing up and comming products for the very reason ive stated, all the things u hold in high esteem were once startups and prolly had some dude hating for the sake of it saying it would neva work.

some peeps like to be the ultimate critic of everything thinking that it makes them smart but really they often end up with egg on they face, eating humble pie when shit turns good.

i agree being cautious can have benfits but base it on real attributes as opposed to being skepticle for the sake of it.

remember when henry ford set out to make the automobile peeps said he was foolish and look what happen.
By massivecake Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:02 am
what happened to my original post? anyways, Ill ask the question again but in a differant way. Why would i buy virtual thing over other possible software such as bpm? or for that matter, beat thang & virtual beat thang vs any other beat production setup?

You can get BPM and MPD for less than beat thang and virtual thang, and it will prob work just as good, if not better, for less. I understand you are also targeting the hardware market - the mpd and BPM combo is a software setup so technically comparing bpm/mpd and bt/btvirtual is a non comparison, but, if you are going the route of offering a superior product for beat makers, there has to be pros adn cons as to why i would choose bt/btvirtual over other possible setups, especially when you toss in price for features; beat makers make that comparison all the time e.g. fruityloops/mpd vs mpc, mpc vs mv8000,mpc1k vs mpc2500, guru vs mpc, asr10 vs sp1200, ableton+mpd vs hardware, and so on. so it makes sense to want to compare beat thang/bt virtual vs. other possible setups, especially new products such as bpm or maschine.

IMO virtual thang should also be able to compete standalone with other software, otherwise it might as well be another blue box,mpc maid but for beat thang. and if thats the case, you just sold yourself short; yeah maybe beatthang offers something mpc users wanted for years, thats true, but when you got software like bpm offering what mpc users wanted for years, for cheaper, i think most will pick bpm because it offers less risk...........unless you can convince us otherwise.

picking a beat production setup involves more than just comparing features. price, useability, image, and company credability all play just as important roll as the feature list. and if you are trying to convert mpc users, or experienced beat makers, price and risk(risk of wasting time/money) plays an important role.

I dont want to see what has better features, I want to see what is a superior beat production setup that takes everything into consideration and is worth my time and money.

peace
By BEATKANGZ Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:41 am
Both hardware and virtual will both be 16 track with the options to switch between ext or int but remember you have 9 banks per track and pad mute and solo. That's 1408 potential sounds per beat...... With individual control.... If you need more than that to make a beat..... God help u.

Guru lmao.... Those who compare us to that haven't played ours yet... Or even heard our demo beats vs theirs..... How about this why don't we have someone make a track using only guru and their presets VS me using only virtual and our preset sounds.......
I'm game. Matter of fact I'm ready for, reason, bpm, what ever you like..... Or MPC using only presets.....
We don't just talk it..... We walk it!
This whole damn thread is about nerd stuff and not one link to a beat! WTF

That's all I'm about to start post'n "BEATS".

My pops didn't buy a guitar to let it sit in a case and
talk about the head stock and strings..... It's an instrument for Playing!!!!!
The guitar he play'd on "what's going on" cost 20$ he got it from collecting bottles on the streets of detroit......

We make MUSIC equipment designed to make MUSIC.

If there are other things you prefer to make YOUR music with then have at it.........

Not everyone likes to play the same inst.... Me personaly I actually play an inst before I decide if I like it or not.

I'm hear to answer questions and would Love to actually share music. MUSIC is why i started this company not TECH.

My next post will be a Beat!!

Aja
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By saintjoe Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:47 am
massivecake wrote:what happened to my original post? anyways, Ill ask the question again but in a differant way. Why would i buy virtual thing over other possible software such as bpm? or for that matter, beat thang & virtual beat thang vs any other beat production setup?

You can get BPM and MPD for less than beat thang and virtual thang, and it will prob work just as good, if not better, for less. I understand you are also targeting the hardware market - the mpd and BPM combo is a software setup so technically comparing bpm/mpd and bt/btvirtual is a non comparison, but, if you are going the route of offering a superior product for beat makers, there has to be pros adn cons as to why i would choose bt/btvirtual over other possible setups, especially when you toss in price for features; beat makers make that comparison all the time e.g. fruityloops/mpd vs mpc, mpc vs mv8000,mpc1k vs mpc2500, guru vs mpc, asr10 vs sp1200, ableton+mpd vs hardware, and so on. so it makes sense to want to compare beat thang/bt virtual vs. other possible setups, especially new products such as bpm or maschine.

IMO virtual thang should also be able to compete standalone with other software, otherwise it might as well be another blue box,mpc maid but for beat thang. and if thats the case, you just sold yourself short; yeah maybe beatthang offers something mpc users wanted for years, thats true, but when you got software like bpm offering what mpc users wanted for years, for cheaper, i think most will pick bpm because it offers less risk...........unless you can convince us otherwise.

picking a beat production setup involves more than just comparing features. price, useability, image, and company credability all play just as important roll as the feature list. and if you are trying to convert mpc users, or experienced beat makers, price and risk(risk of wasting time/money) plays an important role.

I dont want to see what has better features, I want to see what is a superior beat production setup that takes everything into consideration and is worth my time and money.

peace


no one can answer that question for YOU

you pick the one or ones that work for you in your setup.

for some folks, bpm plus and mpd is all they need.

others still prefer an mpc

some are looking for similar features with added things that they can't do on the mpc

it's not always a clear cut decision for one over the other....

no one needs to convince you why you need one over the other, you need to look at the capabilities and decide which is better for your setup.

I think pretty much all of the software "beat machines" out there now are great, including the virtual thang...

they all work in their own way too, so it's not really a decision on which one for me, I like them all and plan to try each and every one.

that's the beauty of software, you don't have to limit yourself to one decision like you used to with hardware...

now, if you're comparing the beat thang hardware and something like an mpc 1000, 2500, 5000, 500, well that's a whole different decision.

depends on what you want.

but as an mpc user, out of the current lineup of mpcs, based on features/specs I'd pick the thang...

I don't need a "nerve center" like I have in the mpc 4k, it's just used as a basic sequencer/sampler....I don't have any outboard gear anymore, so it's not doing that task.

but then the next man may still need that, so that's why I think it comes down to the individual to make the decision on their best setup, everyone else can just offer an opinion lol.
By BEATKANGZ Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:57 am
Soon as i figure out how to post one on here........ Hmmm How do i post one on here.... LMAO

Never mind here it goes..... Boom.....bap, boom boom bap bap boom, boom bap!!
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By mr_debauch Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:21 am
put it on your myspace or soundclick.. reverb nation, isound... any of those sites and then you post the link to your page here with the name of the song (so we know which song you are talking about)