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By damien907 Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:49 am
thats crazy about the seinheisers!

i would recommend audio technica ATH M50S headphones. can be had for about 150 or 130.

really great headphones to mix on (even though mixing on headphones isnt the most ideal, i do it on these).

check out gearslutz forums. alot of people also recommend these there.
you might also be able to find a few other recommendations there too.


make sure you get the m50S model instead of the m-50 model, becaue the regular m-50 model has one of those stupid heavy coiled cords while the m50s has a standard strait cord.
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By cyrus Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:40 am
crazy about those seinheisers.

i have beyer dynamics DT770 PRO 80 OHMs. Sound wise i think they are great. I get decent results. if you check my sig, all 3 tracks are rendered from maschine, then some compression in reaper for loudness applied. no real mixing - mixing in maschine i guess.. using the beyer dynamics. both made and finished using the headphonse. I say no real mixing because the mix you hear is what it was when I made the beats.......if you go here: http://zeekzilla.bandcamp.com/ tracks 1 & 6 where made with the mpc2500 and these headphones. Rendered 2 track wav in song mode using jjos. both made with headphones. the others i used combination of headphonse and monitors.

my complaints:

1. build quality. overall they seem okay at first. But I've owned a pair of sony's in the past and I would trust sony's build quality compared to these. They our stout. And actually Im on my second pair. My first pair bought brand new I had to send back to factory because the left ear would drop out. My guess was some loose wire/sodering in the wiring connector, if i would twist the wire the correct way they would work. That was a 2 week old headphones mind you. The new ones have been good though. But i would say if you accidently yanked the cord, you could have trouble. I wouldnt say that about the sony's Ive done some accidently stupid shit with my sony's and everything turned out okay.

2. the plastic piece on ouside of these is comming loose. Its just the name/model plate, but the glue has come undone and is separating. IMHO not a good sign overall considering the price of these ****.

3. the ear padding is nice, covers my ears fully and definately does the job of isolation. however, the quailty does not seem as sturdy as it should be. If i let my kids have these for a day im sure there would be seperation. pluss they are fabric felty like, so they actually appear to be dirty, they will absorb dirt overtime. even if you aint no greasy mutha fcker.

4.size. at first i didnt care about the size. but after traveling a bit and using these as my main cans.....I wish they folded. They fit my head nice, but the problem is that they dont fit nicely in my bag. I guess this depends on your requirements, but a little hinge would be easy enough to make them more portable. I would never where these outside my house.

5.loudness. I feel like i cant get these to be loud. I knwo that sounds wierd, and maybe im doing something stupid....like not using them with proper soundcard. but when they are directly in the stock soundcard of my laptop, they arent loud enough. If they are in my audio inteface "motu 828 mk3" they are fine. but overall i do find that i end up cranking volumes way too much. in maschine my levels are always red after like 5 minutes of making a beat.

pros

1. they sound clear to me and acurate. I feel like i actually will get exactly what I hear.
2.isolation. .this is a good and bad thing. technically isolation isnt what you want for a natural mix.....but they do isolate outside sounds.. my wife yells at me all the time when i dont respond to her cause i dont hear her.
3.bass response. i feel like i actually hear the bass and know right where its at. first time this has happened to me with headphonse.


conclusion. I can't deny the sound I get from these. I like them, everything seems to be very accurate. And I can hear the bass nicely. but overall i think for the price - the build quality should be better. I tend to baby all my equipment and even doing so with these, i highly doubt they will last me another year or so. something stupid will happen and they will be out............the sony's in comparison seem to be better build - sound wise....thats up to you.

So Although overall i'd say these are good headphone, build quality and portablility will make me look elsewhere when its time for a new pair. These are definately NOT dj headphones or giging headphonse and are probably not emcee/booth headphones....
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By cyrus Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:19 am
oh, funny realted topic. Im currently living in china. I can get some bootleg dr.dre beats.......lolz. AROUND 10 BUCKS!!!!!

crazy thing is, I have no clue if they are actually bootlegged...........ganked, or factory rejects......they look identical and have the boxing and everything. who the fck knows...havent taken the time to figure out. you go on one block they selling them full price (here that price is redicoulous no average chinese person can afford that shit!!!), then you go to the next block and you get them mega cheap.. cant trust the shit here, but it makes me wonder........are they going out of thier way to bootleg these? or are they just taking advantage of the factory/manufacturer that happens to reside here...if you know what i mean.
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By cyrus Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:11 am
DrunkenBear wrote:cyrus, just spare a couple of hours with your portable player or mobile phone, checking this bootleged dr.dre's.. who knows, maybe you will find a pair stolen from factory :D
ps. according of what i heard, they ain't good for mixing anyway.

I really should. Even if i find out they are bogus, anything under 20 bucks is probably worth it just to find out.
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By jibber Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:51 am
I don't think there's headphones for "hip hop production". If you want headphones for making music, you'd want ones that sound as flat as possible to give you an accurate idea of what's going on. This should be the same for every genre of music you're eventually making.

I have not owned many different headphones in my life...

I had the Sony MDR-v700, but can't recommend them, they are simply far to bass heavy. I bought them out of an impulse many years ago not knowing anything about headphones. They sound nice, but not really accurate.
About a year ago they broke.

It was time for new ones, so i did a lot of research and went to music stores to compare different models. I ended up with Grado RS-2i headphones.

They are on the more expensive side, but to me they are worth every cent i've paid. Great stereo image, no listening fatigue, translate very well, etc. What struck me the most is that they almost don't sound like "headphones". Hard to explain, but they feel more like listening to speakers... the sound isn't perceived as "directly at your ear", it's more like they "built" a room with speakers which you can wear on your head... :? :lol:

I've also tested their cheaper models down to the SR80i. They all sound very nice... more expensive models improve gradually in bass response and stereo imaging.
By Roots Renegade Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:06 am
Thanks a lot guys.

After reading all of your answers, i will stick with my HD 280 pro.

No need to pay for another model as they deliver exactly what i bought them for:

Mixing without drowning in low frequencies, super quality mids and highs, very comfortable, lightweight, natural feeling, excellent balance, excellent isolation and all that, for a decent price.

As a matter of fact, i recommend them.

Been nice reading your opinions, thanks to all of you for taking the time to answer.

Video review of the HD 280: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmeHXfixG3Q
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By psr Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:38 am
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ATH-M50 professional studio monitor headphones, Audio-Technica

I've used these for a long time. rather true to the sound you've made. faithful

And i do have Dre Beats Studio headphones... I got em sort of half reluctantly but i was so curius... with all the mixed reviews i had yo peep. verdict... great for traveling on airplanes for some reason thats where i enjoy em most but i dont use em in the studio. well maybe raely but in the sense of playing your stuff in the ride or in a boombox for the consumer type of translation of the mix. I once caught an overuse of an effect while listening in beats but that was once. its not a studio headphone set imo. its a consumer curve on the frequency response. they leak like crazy and they are too flashy i cant listen to my shit for people asking me "How u like the Beats?"
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By JVC Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:39 am
HD 280 Pro should be really good can for monitoring. I have Sony MDR-V6 (great cost performance! and I love its no frill design), but I suppose HD 280 Pro is better model, if not the same class.
I'm surprised to see that no one has mentioned AKG, which has been used like a standard cans for many recording studio. There is Quincy Jones signature model too (I definitely prefer the QJ headphone than Beats By Dre, personally.)

By the way, I am very curious about those bootleg Beats By Dre headphone! The original Beats By Dre (the first one) is a very unique design, it requires batteries (it has build-in amp)! I wonder if they've copied that part too, or simply some one copied the whole thing!