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By konc3pt Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:51 pm
mr_debauch wrote:
konc3pt wrote:Which proves even more how pointless that video is and completely dismisses debauch's comment



I was explaining the point of unboxing videos to you since you couldn't wrap your head around why people make them.. and the points I made weren't specific to this video or type of product.



well you werent exactly specific as to what you were referring to, this video or another so maybe that's where the issue lays ...but that shit you went on about packaging telling you about the company is pure nonsense...what exactly are you after, smell, texture, color or maybe combination all, that's some psychic shit :lol: :lol:
so you rather watch 10minute unboxing video than going over the list of contents in less than 30 seconds??

and I get the concept of unboxing if it eventually leads up to sometething useful/informative about the product, or if something required special handling care...
mr_debauch wrote: since this is your first time even hearing of an unboxing video you dont know what dismisses what...


you aint gotta be a car mechanic to be able to tell something is wrong with a vehicle if it's obious, or if beat is out of tune if it's clearly audible....so what's your point ?



Wal Martian wrote:We get it... you hate videos of people unboxing products.


I really dont have anything agaist them as long as it's informative and something can be learned from it
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By mr_debauch Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:08 pm
konc3pt wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:
konc3pt wrote:Which proves even more how pointless that video is and completely dismisses debauch's comment



I was explaining the point of unboxing videos to you since you couldn't wrap your head around why people make them.. and the points I made weren't specific to this video or type of product.



well you werent exactly specific as to what you were referring to, this video or another so maybe that's where the issue lays ...but that shit you went on about packaging telling you about the company is pure nonsense...what exactly are you after, smell, texture, color or maybe combination all, that's some psychic shit :lol: :lol:


for example, I bought an axiom 49, granted it was local and brand new from the store... seeing how they pack those I would never order one online... they put protective cardboard on each end and some thin foam type wrapping around it before putting it in the box... something hits that in the middle and for sure the knobs and faders will get damaged. M-audio doesn't care because they are concerned with only shipping while they send out pallets of the shit, not when one person orders one loose. Also, I didn't get the software disk... now that doesn't bother me, but somebody else might find that useful...

Another example, the unboxing video where saint joe unboxed the beat thang... it was packaged in crumpled newspaper balls... what does that say about that company? They cut corners.


sure, none of that shit is vital... and I agree.. I dont really care about what comes with the collector's edition of halo reach or what have you...


ou aint gotta be a car mechanic to be able to tell something is wrong with a vehicle if it's obious, or if beat is out of tune if it's clearly audible....so what's your point ?


what's yours? we aint talking about a broken piece of gear or an out of tune song...
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By b.read Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:11 pm
This thread gives me hope...


That if I die tomorrow, you guys are ready with the cat pics. :D
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By otobot Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:58 pm
Unboxing drama aside, the Octatrack is off the hook!
Like I said in the other thread in the MPC 5000 sub section, it's like a sample molesters wet dream come true. Don't go by the mediocre videos on YT.

The last two days I had some time to mess around with the unit and slowly get into it's deep functionality.
It's perfect for remixing and completely rearranging your tracks but also great for starting off new beats fresh in the box with drums, vinyl samples, synth sounds, whatever.. (there's a way for 'buildin' your synth via single cycle samples.. haven't tested yet).

8 tracks doesn't sound like much, but you can put like all the drums on one track and create your complete drum beat on this one track. Also the parameter locks are fvckin amazing for variations. Each stepp can have it's own setting for Play (including retrig), Amp (volume, pan, attack, decay, etc.), LFOs (can modulate almost all targets), Effect1 , Effect2... Each step can be micro timed, so putting in swing and getting a humanized feel is easy.

Unsing the crosfader to blend between "scenes" (totally different settings for the corresponding tracks) is the sh1t!!
Assigning all the fine tuning is really hands on and eeeeasy. It's mad fun working with this unit.

Triggless triggs are like parameter locks, but don't need the sample to be triggered. You can define any place in the running sample and change all of it's sound settings like with the help of parameter locks.

It's perfectly capable of producing any sample heavy genre, Hip Hop included. I'm gonna try some Boom Bap next haha...
Not as easy as with an MPC to get your ish swingin, think like in a DAW where you manually move notes to place them where you want them. But way beyond the MPC in sampling, sample mangling, creating variations and performing live.
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By mr_debauch Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:24 pm
^ how in your opinion is the build quality and what have you? so far so good though, I cant wait to see/hear how it sounds in the hands of an mpc head.
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By otobot Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:44 pm
mr_debauch wrote:^ how in your opinion is the build quality and what have you? so far so good though, I cant wait to see/hear how it sounds in the hands of an mpc head.


Build quality is incredibly good. That's what makes working with it all the more fun.
The case is of metal, really thick, steel plate I think. The push encoders are really firm and still move really well. The buttons are also sturdy. The crossfader moves like butter but seems undestroyable. It's the optical type, no carbon lanes, millions of operations.

No joke, I've never seen or had a machine (not only music equipment) that was this sturdy and still looked and felt so sweet.

I sound like a fanboy lol.
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By Ill-Green Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:09 am
otobot wrote:Unboxing drama aside, the Octatrack is off the hook!
Like I said in the other thread in the MPC 5000 sub section, it's like a sample molesters wet dream come true. Don't go by the mediocre videos on YT.

The last two days I had some time to mess around with the unit and slowly get into it's deep functionality.
It's perfect for remixing and completely rearranging your tracks but also great for starting off new beats fresh in the box with drums, vinyl samples, synth sounds, whatever.. (there's a way for 'buildin' your synth via single cycle samples.. haven't tested yet).

8 tracks doesn't sound like much, but you can put like all the drums on one track and create your complete drum beat on this one track. Also the parameter locks are fvckin amazing for variations. Each stepp can have it's own setting for Play (including retrig), Amp (volume, pan, attack, decay, etc.), LFOs (can modulate almost all targets), Effect1 , Effect2... Each step can be micro timed, so putting in swing and getting a humanized feel is easy.

Unsing the crosfader to blend between "scenes" (totally different settings for the corresponding tracks) is the sh1t!!
Assigning all the fine tuning is really hands on and eeeeasy. It's mad fun working with this unit.

Triggless triggs are like parameter locks, but don't need the sample to be triggered. You can define any place in the running sample and change all of it's sound settings like with the help of parameter locks.

It's perfectly capable of producing any sample heavy genre, Hip Hop included. I'm gonna try some Boom Bap next haha...
Not as easy as with an MPC to get your ish swingin, think like in a DAW where you manually move notes to place them where you want them. But way beyond the MPC in sampling, sample mangling, creating variations and performing live.

Nice review!!! This machine is definitely on my list.

Please make a video soon, those Youtubes sucked the donkey's dick hard.
By JVC Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:22 am
Umm, I want my Octatrack, and Octatrack is a bit more affordable than Beat Thang!
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By mr_debauch Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:14 am
JVC wrote:Umm, I want my Octatrack, and Octatrack is a bit more affordable than Beat Thang!


what was the factor that caused people to even compare the beat thang to the octotrack?
By JVC Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:29 am
mr_debauch wrote:
JVC wrote:Umm, I want my Octatrack, and Octatrack is a bit more affordable than Beat Thang!


what was the factor that caused people to even compare the beat thang to the octotrack?


Only because of the fact that Octatrack is LESS expensive than BT. Indeed, they should not be compared in serious context.
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By mr_debauch Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:43 am
JVC wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:
JVC wrote:Umm, I want my Octatrack, and Octatrack is a bit more affordable than Beat Thang!


what was the factor that caused people to even compare the beat thang to the octotrack?


Only because of the fact that Octatrack is LESS expensive than BT. Indeed, they should not be compared in serious context.


ah okay, I thought I missed a "VS" thread or something :lol:
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By otobot Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:01 am
Ill-Green wrote:Please make a video soon, those Youtubes sucked the donkey's dick hard.


Not sure if I get to it this WE.. but I'll make a video, showing it in a Hip Hop context...
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By Ill-Green Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:24 pm
otobot wrote:
Ill-Green wrote:Please make a video soon, those Youtubes sucked the donkey's dick hard.


Not sure if I get to it this WE.. but I'll make a video, showing it in a Hip Hop context...

Anything will do, even if you use the Amen break. I just want to see a basic beat made on it and how the Octatrack manipulates it. :D
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By tapedeck Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:20 pm
^^ amen +1
most of the videos i've seen are already produced beats with the fx section going crazy. i'd be more interested in the process from scratch.