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By HP. Tue May 24, 2011 11:49 am
beatwangz website wrote:16 tracks...

Recording drums on different tracks your gonna use 8-10 of these tracks minimum with 2 breaks :lol:
By HP. Tue May 24, 2011 11:51 am
beatwangz website wrote:Add 24bit reverb, delay, flange, phaser, pitch shift, old record and many more.

:lol:
By CoinOP! Tue May 24, 2011 5:27 pm
kb420ps wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqLie_qoYxQ


WTF???? 3:20 Universal SERVICE Bus??????



Those two headphone ouput is brilliant! It makes the headphonesplitter obselete now 2011....
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By konc3pt Tue May 24, 2011 6:27 pm
HP. wrote:
beatwangz website wrote:16 tracks...

Recording drums on different tracks your gonna use 8-10 of these tracks minimum with 2 breaks :lol:


I was proven by a drummer/guitar player that you can get away with 8 tracks total :mrgreen:
By JVC Tue May 24, 2011 6:41 pm
"Two headphone jacks"? "Two unbalanced TRS analog audio output" is more accurate description. (Maybe it doesn't have a pair of balanced audio out) And the video was from 2009 show, with mock up unit.
However, the specification is extremely sketchy still. Still no demos available.
Having only 16 tracks is fine, but this thing is supposed to be sold at $1500... It sounds extremely limited for that price range. Even MPC-500 has 48 tracks.
By HP. Tue May 24, 2011 6:49 pm
konc3pt wrote:I was proven by a drummer/guitar player that you can get away with 8 tracks total :mrgreen:

8 total drums or 8 total everything?
without re-sampling?
elaborate please... ??? :)

I end up using about 40 tracks as record nearly every note on different tracks as have to use full level with my busted pads and change each tracks volume manually for expression :roll: :lol:
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By nogginj Tue May 24, 2011 7:08 pm
HP. wrote:I end up using about 40 tracks as record nearly every note on different tracks as have to use full level with my busted pads and change each tracks volume manually for expression :roll: :lol:

hardcore. props. ;]

i agree 16 tracks sounds like a joke at first...however also keep in mind that the beat thang is supposed to do 'mutes' like on a korg er series...so that might eliminate the need for a track for each drum sound like we are used to with the mpc.

somebody explain why it's not BKE anymore but now it's 'by Dallas Austin'. ???
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By konc3pt Tue May 24, 2011 7:18 pm
HP. wrote:
konc3pt wrote:I was proven by a drummer/guitar player that you can get away with 8 tracks total :mrgreen:

8 total drums or 8 total everything?
without re-sampling?
elaborate please... ??? :)

I end up using about 40 tracks as record nearly every note on different tracks as have to use full level with my busted pads and change each tracks volume manually for expression :roll: :lol:


hahaha what a workaround...dude got ipad from work for christmas I told him to get on that garage band he's been hooked on it since but limitation of it is 8 tracks and that's all he's been using to build his rock songs and shit sounds like a band is playing.
By kb420ps Tue May 24, 2011 9:05 pm
nogginj wrote:somebody explain why it's not BKE anymore but now it's 'by Dallas Austin'. ???



I'd like to know about that too.
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By MeSoHordey Tue May 24, 2011 10:57 pm
kb420ps wrote:
nogginj wrote:somebody explain why it's not BKE anymore but now it's 'by Dallas Austin'. ???



I'd like to know about that too.


It's hard to know for sure without insider info, but there are some interesting things to note;

The BeatKangz forums are a ghost town. Knowing those guys, if they were still involved with the Beat Thang, they'd be crowing on their own forums about the upcoming release. The only news being posted is Viagra spam.

Several news outlets are reporting that Dallas Austin's company "Rowdy Electronics" is marketing the Beat thang through a joint venture with AJA Emmanuel/BKE.

It looks like Dallas Austin has partnered with Best Buy for distribution.

Dallas is also heavily promoting a talent search contest sponsored by Metrolyrics in conjunction with Boost Mobile. Reports say, "The winner will receive 10,000 dollars in cash and an opportunity to produce a track with Dallas Austin at his studio in Atlanta, Georgia. The winner will also receive a Beat Thang Beat Machine, an in-studio lesson from Aja Emmanuel, as well as a collection of Dallas Austin’s “Rowdy” branded clothing."

So my best guess is that BeatKangz are no more. Aja Emmanuel has somehow secured rights to the company's remaining assets, but he really isn't in a position to go it alone. So he's licensed the assets (which include 1000 units) to Dallas. Dallas' company, Rowdy, will support the damn machine and Dallas, through his connections will market it. Dallas probably didn't have to invest much. He'll simply take a cut from the 1000 units sold through Best Buy. And he's using the machine to help with a side promotion he's got with Metro Lyrics. So he probably can't lose.

The final remaining piece of the puzzle is, how do they support this thing (thang)? My guess is, they've only produced a very limited number of units. Parts are going to be incredibly hard to come by and they may not have a very large inventory to replace from. In addition, my guess is that the folks who engineered this thing are no longer on board. Rowdy may be able to take sales calls and do limited technical support, but it's hard to believe there are going to be issuing many firmware updates.

The whole thing reeks of an attempt to recoup some of the investment the company made at the hands of unsuspecting users. It's possible the machine ends of being some legendary mythical beast and users come together on a forum such as this to support each other with workarounds and fixes. But it's more likely the the BeatThang doesn't even warrant a footnote in the history of hardware drum machines. If that ends up being the case, I feel bad for users who spend their hard earned cash on this thing because of a slick marketing video.

I don't blame Aja Emmanuel for failing. On the contrary, I credit him for trying to do something new. I do blame him for a real lack of integrity. Not even counting his crazy-ass insults against his potential customers, he let a lot of people down and disappeared without a trace. In his short time here on these boards, he offended nearly everyone. He disparaged Akai as company that doesn't give two shits about anyone (might be true but they look great compared to BKE right now). He got people's hopes up with lucrative sales rep job offers. He got people to invest in BeatThang Virtual with the belief that they would be purchasing a seamless software/hardware combination when the hardware came out. He got peoples hopes up with a contest that was never even concluded. And then to top it off he disappeared without a word when it all fell apart. He's amateur at best, but more likely has a real lack of integrity in his business dealings.

Anyways, the whole thing stinks, but it was interesting while it lasted. As a business major and a product development manager at a software company, I listened to his promises with sheer incredulity. For me, it always boiled down to a.) he either believed what he was saying which made him extremely naive or b.) he knew he was spouting bullshit which made him kind of an unethical guy. Will be interesting to see where he appears next.

Links below for your reading pleasure;
http://www.xydo.com/articles/20288609-metrolyrics_partners_with_boost_mobile
http://hiphopwired.com/2011/05/20/dallas-austin-premieres-new-beat-machine-beat-thang-video/
http://www.theboombox.com/2011/05/20/dallas-austin-unveils-beat-thang-machine-and-contest/
By kb420ps Tue May 24, 2011 11:15 pm
TreCipher617 wrote:i feel like the designers and advertisers of that product made it for the stupid crowd of people(who like colors!!)



And Bling. or is it Blang????
By HP. Wed May 25, 2011 3:16 am
konc3pt wrote:dude got ipad from work for christmas I told him to get on that garage band he's been hooked on it since but limitation of it is 8 tracks and that's all he's been using to build his rock songs and shit sounds like a band is playing.

ipad > BeatWang :lol: