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Byhas-b Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:10 pm
Has anyone heard of mpc groove templates? According to legend.. other seqencers (like logic, cubase, etc) can swing like the MPC! That's where these "groove templates" come in.
Supposedly, some logic users have found these templates somewhere, and I sure as hell wanna know where!! if anyone knows, hollaaaa!!
By The MPCist Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:43 pm
has-b wrote:Has anyone heard of mpc groove templates? According to legend.. other seqencers (like logic, cubase, etc) can swing like the MPC! That's where these "groove templates" come in.
Supposedly, some logic users have found these templates somewhere, and I sure as hell wanna know where!! if anyone knows, hollaaaa!!


Yeah, sequencers like Digital Performer got em but they suck! (If you have DP, then they're included, that's where they are).

Some marketing guy thought up this scam.. "Hey, let's make some different quantize settings and call them MPC groove templates!"

Yeah, great idea but they don't sound anything like the MPC! hahahaah!

Byhas-b Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:52 pm
Thanks for your reply!
Unfortunately, (fortunately...) I'm a logic user, and the "legendary" mpc grooves are supposedly hand-made, originaly from the mpc. I know it's not a myth, so somebody come out the dark and SHARE!!!!
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By binger0 Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:54 pm
Its called swing. That is the only "templete" you can apply on the MPC, but you have that prob. on logic.
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By Sketchman Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:06 pm
I ve tried them some years ago.

Back then i used the kawai q80ex as a sequencer.So i took a drum loop i sequenced and quantised on that thing and requantised it with the mpc settings some cat made for logic.It wored.But i didnt like it.I liked my setting that i used on the Q80 more than the mpc setting.It was sounding forced.On logic itself the differences were almost not even audible.

What i try to explain is that:
The mpc swing settings work good on the mpc, because of the overall handling of the machine, and the experimenting you can do around it.

So by just taking the settings you wont get the feel of the mpc nor the sound, cause that is all a product of the beat making process on the machine itself.

Byhas-b Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:13 pm
Sketchman---

You definetly got a point therre. but, you have tried it!!! Where did you get those settings for logic? I'm one of those idiots who has to see it to believe it.
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By Sketchman Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:37 pm
look around on google.

found them on a logic yahoo-newsgroup.

If that logic newsgroup is still there they will still be there in their files directory.
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By CriTiKaL Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:51 pm
Pro Tools 6.x has them, too.

Byhas-b Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:54 pm
So out of all of the possibilities... What would be the best way to incorprate the mpc into a computer based studio? Record mpc audio into logic? Get a good pre-amp too?

By jontakiff Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:52 pm
Hang on a second.

Logic can in fact be made to sound exactly like the mpc using groove templates. I've done it, it's pretty easy and it works perfectly. I was worried about losing the 2000 swing when I started on logic but that whole thing is a myth. Why? MPC has 96 points between beats. Logic has over 1300. What you do is, whenever you record a midi track in logic, you can save that track as a groove template. All it does is remember exactly where each note falls and that's how you get a template - then you just import it and can apply it any track. You just record beats from the mpc out to logic at every swing setting, and save them each as groove templates.

Anyone that says logic can't swing like the mpc isn't using logic properly. From having used both fairly extensively at this point I'd say not only does logic swing just like the mpc, it is way, way more flexible as a sequencer. I don't how many times I was in step edit on the mpc being like, okay, one tick back, no, one tick forward, damn. Logic, you can take each note and slide it the teensiest little bit, so you can actually custom make your own swing and save it as a template. Just way more powerful IMO, even though it is tricky to learn and I still haven't mastered it. No disrespect to mpc diehards, though.

Byhas-b Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:02 am
jontakiff,

can you send me the template settings? I don't have an mpc to tell you the truth, but have worked with one, and am in love with the grooves!!!
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By Decepticon3107 Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:26 am
FL studio has them. If you look under the quantizing options in the piano roll you'll see a few different templates called 'MPC 1', 'MPC 2' and so on...
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By Decepticon3107 Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:30 am
Also, i'm a die-hard 2000xl user, but I can get my drums in fruity loops sounding just as good as on my MPC. It just takes a little mouse clicking here and there, which I hate. I'd rather twist knobs and dials than click a mouse any day. (as far as beat making is concerned)