Help Getting Tracks In Sync In Cool Edit Pro!

What's up Fam!

I'm having a problem getting tracks to be in sync in the multitrack portion of CEP.

I have Cool Edit Midi'ed up to the MPC. MPC is master, Computer is slave.

I have a sequence that I want to track out. I solo out and record each track individually. However they are not in sync in Cool Edit. Can anyone help me out?

I don't understand how they can be out of sync when everything is midi'ed up like that. I set cool edit to record on a track and enable it as a slave then I press play start on the MPC for every track. Why is each track recorded out of sync? and how can I fix this?

BTW, I am aware that cool edit cuts off the first second of a sequence, so in song mode I do have an empty sequence set up.

Thanks Fam!

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What you wanna do is, have the recorder be the master. Make sure the midi out from cool edit pro thru the midi interface is set to send out midi time code, at 30 frames per second. I have no idea where that is in CEP, but I've used this with almost every other DAW, so you should have no problem. Also, in CoolEdit, start out with a grid tempo that is the exact same BPM as you have set in the MPC.
OK, on the MPC, you want to go shift+midi, and turn the input to whatever it's plugged into on the MPC, and set it to MTC, 30 frames per second. You will lay the tracks from the MPC from SONG MODE, but more on that later. Of course, you know to go to the mute screen, and mute what you don't want playing, per recording pass in each sequence.
When you are running the MPC form cooledits MTC timecode, if you have an XL, it will just start when it recieved code from the computer. If you have a regular 2000, you will press play/start, and it will display 'waiting for time code' at bottom of screen, and then play when it recieves code.
Here's an example for laying stuff : Lets say you have a 4 bar loop, with 8 tracks in the MPC. If you only have stereo outs, you will have to do four passes. No problem, this will sync them up, even if you do 40 passes. But don't lay 4 minutes of the same loop, that's a waste of space. Just lay the four bars, and copy/paste in cooledit.
Anyway, another VERY important thing to remember is, you will need some time for the codes to lock up and be rock solid. That means, put your important sequences in song mode in the MPC. But the first step should be a BLANK one-bar sequence at the begining of the song, same BPM of course. Then, have cool edit start playing and rolling the cursor from zero, but the music will come in a bar later. That's giving the MPC 1 full bar to catch up with the time code. If you don't, you will notice the first note or two missing.
Good luck!

Ignore what trupro said. I don't think he is familiar with CoolEdit.

Make sure you leave it the way you already have it---MPC is master, CEP is slave. Sounds like you already know how to rig that up.

Go into your Options menu in CoolEdit

choose "Set SMPTE offset"

And set it for approximately 6 seconds (make a blank/silent 4 bar sequence on your MPC at the beginning of the song, which should be longer than 6 seconds theoretically, so CEP should be only skipping the silence anyway)

What this does is it tells CoolEdit to delay the actual RECORDING for 6 seconds, and thus the computer spends the first 6 seconds synching the two machines before actually recording anything.

Boom.

Lines up perfect everytime for me now.

dont even mess with the smpte, if your just recording 2 to 8 bars at a time lock them up via MMC, set CEP to send MMC and the MPC to sync to MMC. this is the simplest and moste effective way to handle business.

oh and if your using effects out the MPC this could get sloppy, apply all your effects (not filters) in CEP.

Yeah, I don't f wit cool edit pro. Although, the end of your chain, ie, your
multitrack recorder, is usually the master, regardless of if you are using a DAW, or a 48 track 2 inch analog tape machine. It's just the way it's usually done.

Yo koolsha, I have tried to use MMC with the MPC, and it rendered alot of errors. It started, but didn't keep it locked very well. also, I don't see any 'setting' in the MPC about MMC. It just seems to recieve it and go.
What exactly does this do. Seems like just a location start point, not a timecode lock. I feel MTC is the way to go, it's always worked for me.

i actually dont use CEP either - but with the MPC2000xl and MPC60 Pro Tools starts it perfectly with no lag. All it really does is just tell the MPC to start playing and sends it the BPM. i never got any errors in either machine.

Wanna Get Synced!
First Connect a MIDI OUT CABLE From your MPC to your PC's IN. Then SETUP your MPC to Transmit MTC and MMC(midi time code,midi machine control). this is in the MIDI setup section inside your MPC.Make sure the channel you ask your MPC to transmit the codes, such as A or B, corresponds to your Cable going to your PC.
NOW Slave Cool edit to MTC aka MIDI TIME CODE...By going to OPTIONS inside the Multi track view and scroll down to SMPTE SLAVE ENABLE...(oh! dont forget to make sure your midi setup inside cool edit is correct, suchas the right devices..goto Device Properties inside OPTIONS if you havent set up your MIDI ins and OUTS)...Once you've Selected SMPTE SLAVE ENABLE, a little text message will come out on the lower left hand corner reading "OPENED MIDI INPUT/SYNC"
........Hit Play on your MPC...It should Trigger CEP also to play and run in sync...
If all is set correct you can now Record your induvidual tracks into Cool Edit by Enableing Record on a track(in CEP) and Hiting PLay On your MPC...Then Mix Inside Cool Edit...

PS...I know it says "SMPTE SLAVE ENABLE" and your thinking "But im not transmitting SMPTE"...ahhh CEP will Convert SMPTE to MTC
that is the Trick!


I DO IT THIS WAY AND HAVE NO PROBLEM....BUT I MAKE COOL EDIT THE MASTER AND THE MPC THE SLAVE

http://www.dustmightz.net/site/readarti ... ticle_id=1


you can thank me later

"CEP to send MMC and the MPC to sync to MMC."

"but with the MPC2000xl and MPC60 Pro Tools starts it perfectly with no lag. All it really does is just tell the MPC to start playing and sends it the BPM"

MMC does not send any timing signal!
See below:
http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/mmc.htm

Where is recieve MMC setting in MPC again? (not in front of me...drwing a blank). Maybe I'll give it another try. I don't go in for failure.

midi out of cep to midi in of mpc. thats the best way to do it.