For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.
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By DEWYZEMAN Fri May 07, 2010 7:20 pm
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-ROL-MV8800-LIST
http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLMV8800

Seems to me that the market is changing, those who have hardware should keep them those who don’t should take advantage off the low priceces.

Hardware samplers are going to become obsolete because software sampling is simply easier and better.

But music production using the MPCs as your sequencers is simply better and easier than going all the way soft.

The old thinking off hardware strictly for sampling is outdated the broader usage off these hardware samplers is music production and because off the uniqueness off the MPC lines they will be the last man standing.
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By crossings Fri May 07, 2010 9:51 pm
people like to act like using software in place of hardware is a new concept or something... yet people have been sequencing/sampling with software for over a dozen years now and MPCs are still being used just as much as they ever were [if not even more] . not to mention that new [better] MPCs have also come out and people still resort to older models. there will always be a market for hardware samplers... just like some people prefer driving classic cars.
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By picalo32 Fri May 07, 2010 10:20 pm
there is definitely a change in the market, native instruments, open labs, Roland, are on the right track. akai is still stuck with trying to milk 15 & 20 year old tech.
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By crossings Fri May 07, 2010 10:34 pm
yes there is new technology... that doesn't mean that EVERYONE will follow the trends.

when CDs came out everyone was talking about the death of vinyl... and the new generations of kids went the CD route as did many adults, but still a lot of them over time went back to older [and more tangible] technology. have labels started pressing less records? yes. but have records become extinct? hell no... there is always a market. it may not be the most "popular" market... but that doesn't mean a damn thing to an underground hip-hop head imo.
By j-no Fri May 07, 2010 10:51 pm
i love the "simplicity" of samplin' straight into the MP, SP etc. no need to convert a music file into another file..., but software is cool too...
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By DEWYZEMAN Fri May 07, 2010 11:12 pm
The fact is MPC and MVs selling point was always the sampler for chopping that function in hardware is far behind software sampling and because off the simply cheaper software samplers and editors why purchase a $2,500.00 samplers it make no sence,you can get drum samples for free or cheap as hell.

The fact is that these companys are moving away from the hardware samplers it is sad to say that but that’s is just the fact they cannot justify putting more research and resources into hardware when the market has dried up and price point is so high and the technology is still expensesive.

Has the MPC evolved into something it was not originally design for, I thinks so, have enough people figured it out for the market to be there for company like akai and the MPC line,who knows it might be to late.

For me at least theirs is nothing on the market that can compete with the MPC5000 as the centerpiese off a workstation ,just my opinion. As far as the next generation off high end MPCs and MVs this is it.
By mr.pleasant Sat May 08, 2010 4:31 am
:twisted: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...............

this forum needs to start screening some of these stupid toilet chatters......... 4real-real
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By Menco Sat May 08, 2010 7:35 am
Some people don't like software like me.
I love to see how a friend of mine can layout beats in Logic so quickly and to see all the features he has availible. Still it will never be my thing.

Maybe the number of mpc users didn't drop or raise.
The number of people who now are able to produce music with a relatively cheap software setup has grown over the last decade.

I think this is just a trend. Software is being integrated with a dedicated controler more and more to recreate that hardware feeling.
Over ten years the market for hardware will probably almost as big as the software market. (samplers and workstations)
By dryad-66 Sat May 08, 2010 7:57 am
Its a yin yang situation.a combination of both really adds depth to a mix!!!you get distortion and added harmonics when you use hardware.which is musical.Another factor known as "air" in studio s is added noise and (chi) life.Take that away and your loosing some soul.Nowadays music is simulated more than ever before.more software is needed to put it life back in.Also known as chasing your tail :lol:EDIT-ive come to the conclusion that the bigger,heavier and (older) the equipment is the better? more authentic sound.generally..
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By rebel_lion Sat May 08, 2010 3:16 pm
I started off with the software route and bought an mpc afterward. I use the best of both worlds but I always find myself running back to the MPC more. My work flow is much faster and I don't get distracted as much as if I were on a computer. (Facebook, youtube, porn....etc :lol: )
By Lord Lav Sat May 08, 2010 7:19 pm
I've strictly software free since I started out. I'm finally gonna go down the software route and start using a mac with logic, but I'm doing that to be more effecient in producing, replacing my 8track recorder. My MPC is still my best and favourite toy and I wouldn't trade it in, in a million years
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By Dr. Feelgood Sat May 08, 2010 7:51 pm
All hardware here too. I absolutely loathe using software or even thinking about using it to construct my music. To each his own though :) :) Just my opinion as I do have my preferences. It could be 2020 and I would still be using a dedicated hardware sampler.