I need new Cartridges.

I ripped the stylus clean off my Shure M447 on my slipmat. Smooth move.

I haven't bought needles in YEARS, these Shure's have lasted me real good. I guess thats a sign that i should just buy a replacement stylus. But if there are better needles out these days, i'd like to know.

Haughler atchur Ba.

yo just replace the 447 stylus. they like 20 bucks

I'm partial to Ortofon's myself...I usually get 400-500 hours out of a a stylus

for sampling ortofon or the shure white labels.
for scratchin keep the 44! you could also get the 44G stylus to replace the 7 for a cleaner sound and it fits into the 44-7s cart too.

I got the Shure M447 i believe...ive had them for so long ...they r real good.

Why go elsewhere wen u already had the best? Stick with the shures maynh

The 447's are good (arguably the best) if you're doing alot of cutting. But for sampling, I'd say you could get another cart that would have better sound quality and wouldn't put as much wear on your records.
That's the other thing, though. The M447's have a harsher sound than alot of other carts/styli... More bass heavy and the sound quality isn't up there with the best so it kinda results in a more 'grimey' sound, which, depending on your production style, could be a good or not so good thing.
If you set your cart(s) up right and you find that sometimes they'll skip on you, then I'd keep the M447 instead of forking out for a completely new cart. But if the cart never skips for you and you think something with a flatter sound could be good then maybe get something else. My 2 cents.

Peace

WDJ wrote:The 447's are good (arguably the best) if you're doing alot of cutting. But for sampling, I'd say you could get another cart that would have better sound quality and wouldn't put as much wear on your records.
That's the other thing, though. The M447's have a harsher sound than alot of other carts/styli... More bass heavy and the sound quality isn't up there with the best so it kinda results in a more 'grimey' sound, which, depending on your production style, could be a good or not so good thing.
If you set your cart(s) up right and you find that sometimes they'll skip on you, then I'd keep the M447 instead of forking out for a completely new cart. But if the cart never skips for you and you think something with a flatter sound could be good then maybe get something else. My 2 cents.

Peace

??? did you just tell dude that if his needles are skipping then keep them and if they are not skipping then find new ones???

am i reading that right?

mesh wrote:

WDJ wrote:The 447's are good (arguably the best) if you're doing alot of cutting. But for sampling, I'd say you could get another cart that would have better sound quality and wouldn't put as much wear on your records.
That's the other thing, though. The M447's have a harsher sound than alot of other carts/styli... More bass heavy and the sound quality isn't up there with the best so it kinda results in a more 'grimey' sound, which, depending on your production style, could be a good or not so good thing.
If you set your cart(s) up right and you find that sometimes they'll skip on you, then I'd keep the M447 instead of forking out for a completely new cart. But if the cart never skips for you and you think something with a flatter sound could be good then maybe get something else. My 2 cents.

Peace

did you just tell dude that if his needles are skipping then keep them and if they are not skipping then find new ones???

am i reading that right?

Yeah, cause if you set the M447s up right, they shouldn't skip much. But if they do skip for this dude then he should not change over to a cart with even less tracking ability. But if the 447 never skips on him, then he could probably afford to get a different cart that doesn't have all the tracking power of the 447, and has better sound quality. Ya know?

for sampling purposes i would go with something like the V15VxMR from Shure.


...and on changing the needle. if the cart is in heavy use, it should be changed about every 5 months or so. there might not be a loss in sound quality, but the sharp point of the needle will become dull and will dig deeper into the groove. that makes the grooves wider and causes cue-burn (if you skratch the records).


if you choose to change the needle when the sound quality becomes bad... hell, it's your records...

keep the shure