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By Grig537 Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:13 pm
Hello! :nod:

Does anybody of you have experience with the AKG K701?
Can you recommend it for mixing?
My last studio headphone, a Superlux HD-668 B, didn't make it long.
For my ears, the sound on it was very clear. And it was only 30 €. 8)
Do you know if it really makes such a big difference at the soundquality?
I mean, it's 150€ more expensive. :shock:
Cause I got no monitor boxes, the AKG would be my main mixing device.
Does anyone else do their mixes only on headphones, is it even possible?

Peace. :smoker:
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By Grig537 Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:49 pm
Mhhh thx for response.
I read trough all your posted links, but no one there had the headphones i want.
But good to know that there are plenty of you mixing with headphones. :)
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By Lampdog Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:12 pm
Options are good to explore!
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By Grig537 Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:26 pm
Yeah your right, but I wish someone could give some feedback for the AKG K701.
Just heard the best of it.
And only because all of you use the Audio-Technica ATH-M50, it doesn't make it the best. :wink:
But it's on my radar now. :smoker:
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By RepRSP Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:49 pm
heard they are very decent headphones. I guess you can´t never go wrong with Akg´s
just my opinion but i´ve had 3 different pairs over the years they still sound great to me
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By Grig537 Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:55 pm
Thx, I think I'll just try them out if i can hustle the money. :lol:
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By ryssen Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:52 pm
I bought a pair of AKG K601 seven years ago or so, sold them very quickly, way to heavy in the highs and upper mid range.
I don't know if I didn't had a powerful enough headphone amp or if it was just their character but mixing and beatmaking was impossible for me in those.
My experience with the Beyerdynamic was the same, just mids and highs, simply no way to get a grip on what actually happened bass-wise.

Now I use a pair of Sennheiser HD 25-SP II, they translate pretty good to my Adam-A7 monitors, ususally there's just some adjustments needed in the real low mids. I also check the mix via a pair of AKG K420 or Koss Portapro's to hear how it sounds in a more misty environment.

The Audio Technica's that Lampdog linked to are probably a good thing to check up too, I've heard and read a lot of praise for their headphones and they look quite comfy which is important to consider. My Sennheisers usually give me some pains during longer sessions.
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By Grig537 Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:54 pm
Okay, thank's for the warning. But I never heard that you need a preamp for headphones on the MPC, or am I wrong? :?:
I think I'll stay some longer on my cheap gamer headphones and the ugly TEAC boxes for making beats, I'm used to it. :lol:
If i get enough money I'll give the Audio Technica's a try.
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By ryssen Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:49 pm
Grig537 wrote:But I never heard that you need a preamp for headphones on the MPC, or am I wrong? :?:


Not a preamp, that was never mentioned, but headphones need to be driven by an amp just like speakers. What I meant was that I didn't know if it was the inherent character of the AKG 601:s that left me with such a skewed soundstage, or if they needed a more powerful headphone amp to present their full potential, not sounding thin and trebly.
Some boutique headphones prefer stand-alone headphone amps, as do a lot of headphone audiophiles who's into it as a hobby / gear collecting and selling activity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headphone_amplifier

I played the AKG 601 via the internal headphone amp in my MPC 1000, pretty large Behringer mixer and NAD 304 integrated amplifier (who from what I understand uses a the main amp, but throttled, for the headphone out), it sounded thin and skewed in all instances.
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By Living Bate Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:35 pm
so I was looking into buying some new top of the range headphones....and then the wife buys me a pair of AKG701's for my birthday...

its a common issue with these that they just don't generate anywhere near enough bass....so when using for making music on my MPC it sounds right in the phones, then I take them off and the bass is way too heavy....

I read everywhere that a headphone amp will improve this......so I'm looking into it and wondering which one to buy......but also questioning if it will really improve it?......I'm using a MPC Ren so surely this should be amplifying it anyway no?

any advice anyone?
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By Lampdog Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:18 pm
http://www.head-fi.org/products/akg-k70 ... views/3711

I've read this before with many new headphones/monitors.
Break in periods make a huge difference. So test that theory out before
spending money on a headphone amp.


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Pros: Detail, soundstage, looks
Cons: Comfort, extended break-in needed
I'll first say that when I initially got these headphones and plugged them in, I was pretty disappointed. The sound was thin, plasticy and terribly rough on my ears. BUT I had read enough about the K701's to know that people recommend an extended break-in period of at least 100-200 hours.

I made a temporary setup in the laundry room: old iPod plugged into old Onkyo receiver, K701's plugged into receiver's headphone output. I put a varied playlist on repeat, and kept the volume quite low at first. I let it run 24/7, each day raising the volume some until it was at a decently loud listening level. After about 11-12 days I had a listen - WONDERFUL! There was now a deep liquid bass where there was almost nothing before; tons of detail, crystalline highs, thick timbral textures on acoustic instruments, excellent vocals (especially female).

Be prepared to do something similar if you get these. If you're not willing to delay gratification by a week or two, you might want to get something else, but stick with it and you'll be glad you did. I suspect the people who hate K701/702 just didn't do their research. It takes a few hundred hours to hear the baseline potential of these headphones - it's a night and day difference - but after that they seemed to gradually improve in more subtle ways, at least for a few months.

I would describe the sound of the K701 as very neutral - they really reflect what you put into them. If you want heavy bass, you need to play music with heavy bass, etc. They are revealing enough to reveal poor recordings, but make good recordings sound wondrous. For this reason some people describe their sound as 'clinical' - I see why they say this, but these are also quite musical headphones in my opinion. As I mentioned above, acoustic instruments sound very lifelike. John Coltrane's saxophone is palpable. I'm quite able to lose myself in my favorite recordings, which says to me the headphones are not overly 'clinical.' I only deduct half a star from the Audio Quality rating because they are probably not quite as mind-blowing as something like the HD800 or other exotic boutique headphones.

Only big con to me is the headband. The middle pad, after more than half an hour or so, sometimes begins to feel like a half-inch-thick bolt being slowly threaded through your skull. I'm not sure why; it's thick and feels pretty soft to the fingers. It must just hit some kind of pressure point on some people. It doesn't always hurt but when it does I just stuff a wad of gauze under that spot - a minor nuisance that I accept. Otherwise, the comfort is great - lightweight, and the earpads are luxurious, though after a few years mine have lost their velour-like feel and are kind of faded in spots. Not everyone likes what could be described as the 'trendy ipod white' looks, but I think they're tasteful and pleasantly high-tech looking.
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By Living Bate Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:39 pm
cheers Lamp, i'll give that a go....

although I recon I've probably clocked up a fair few hours on them already....

I wonder what the science is behind it......

there seems to be all sorts of debates about these headphones...its crazy.......I've also seen a modification where you take them apart and remove a bit of foam.....I'm not sure I fancy that though....
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By Lampdog Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:56 pm
Not science :lol: Like new shoes, things get more comfortable with use.
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By Living Bate Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:02 pm
Lampdog wrote:Not science :lol: Like new shoes, things get more comfortable with use.


that is science though......the materials get warm and stretch, then mould to the shape of your feet....

I could understand if the bloke was saying the headphones get more comfortable the more you wear them...

but to say the sound improves over hours of play there has to be some sort of science behind it.......sounds likes a madness to me...