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By Youngwise Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:57 pm
I just need a better understanding of what they are used for. What can I do with an S5000/S6000 that I cannot do with an MPC2000XL? A friend of a friend had one and I tried to understand what he was saying, but I couldn't. He had a keyboard (Korg Wavestation), MPC2000XL, and a S5000, plus many other sound modules. I just don't see why you'd need an S5000.

I kind of figured you could use it save your samples on rather than on zip disks. But I could be wrong, because i did notice that you still have disk drives on the S5000 also. Can someone bring me to light as to what these samplers do that a MPC doesn't do.
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By saintjoe Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:39 pm
multisamples

loading multisampled instruments in

use it as a custom sound module

you can buy sampled instruments like pianos and whatever or make your own multisamples, which would work out on a sampler like that because that's it's pupose,

where as the mpc is more of a phrase and drum sampler although you could multisample with it if you want

the rack type samplers are usually well suited for the multisampling type of work

now the mpc4k has this same type of sampler engine, which makes it "easier" or more "ideal" for multisampling and phrase/drum sampling
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By binger0 Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:40 pm
the mpc has a sampler (the s2000's engine actually) but the s5000 has alot more features, such as filters and editing. u dont need one but it makes life alot easier and gives u alot more options when sampling.

By Youngwise Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:25 pm
Something that I saw my friend's friend doing was he put a sample from the s5000 through the keyboard and had it in different pitches over the keys. Also he chopped it up over a certain number of keys. Is that also something you can do with an MPC4K?

It seems as the the MPC4K is a MPC2kXL + s5000 put together.
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By mpc4000xl Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:27 pm
Youngwise wrote:I just need a better understanding of what they are used for. What can I do with an S5000/S6000 that I cannot do with an MPC2000XL? A friend of a friend had one and I tried to understand what he was saying, but I couldn't. He had a keyboard (Korg Wavestation), MPC2000XL, and a S5000, plus many other sound modules. I just don't see why you'd need an S5000.

I kind of figured you could use it save your samples on rather than on zip disks. But I could be wrong, because i did notice that you still have disk drives on the S5000 also. Can someone bring me to light as to what these samplers do that a MPC doesn't do.




Young Wise I though I Answered It Fully B4

Here
http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=22804
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By mpc4000xl Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:29 pm
Here it is Again...................................



OK The AKAI S5000 or S6000

Max polyphony 128 (WOW)

256Mb of RAM max fitted (that's over 25 min of full stereo sampling)

2 Drive Bays 1 Removadle and 1 Fixed etc.(S6000 i think)

Direct Recording To The Hardisk (mpc can't do it at least 2000's)

26 Resonant Filter types

Up to 16 Outputs

Dual Adat interface (Optional)

A Bunch of FX (EB20 effects Option)

A PS/2 port 4 standard computer keyboards, allowing sounds n pgms to be named easily.

Samples can be auditioned direct from disk or ROM without loadin' them

Sample rates 44.1kHz n 48kHz

2 control LFOs, mod n bend wheels, aftertouch, keyboard tracking n velocity


There is a few more those are the main standouts

GOOD STUFF ............. But Judge 4 Ur' Self if ya need it 8)

By Youngwise Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:41 am
You guys have answered my question. I guess i'm just a little confused. I'm trying to decide what should I be looking to purchase next. The MPC I have (2000XL) isn't mine and soon I'll have to purchase one for myself. I'm just trying to get a better understanding of all that's out there. Soon, I'll be receiving a ncie sum of money and want to purchase the right piece of gear next.

Is the MPC4000 a combination of the 2000XL and a Z4/Z8? If that's the case, then it might benefit me to purchase a 4000 instead of getting a 2000xl and then a rackmount sampler. I plan on purchasing a keyboard first (undecided also) then a sampler for myself. HELP A CONFUSED PRODUCER PLEASE!!!
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By mpc4000xl Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:18 pm
Youngwise wrote:You guys have answered my question. I guess i'm just a little confused. I'm trying to decide what should I be looking to purchase next. The MPC I have (2000XL) isn't mine and soon I'll have to purchase one for myself. I'm just trying to get a better understanding of all that's out there. Soon, I'll be receiving a ncie sum of money and want to purchase the right piece of gear next.

Is the MPC4000 a combination of the 2000XL and a Z4/Z8? If that's the case, then it might benefit me to purchase a 4000 instead of getting a 2000xl and then a rackmount sampler. I plan on purchasing a keyboard first (undecided also) then a sampler for myself. HELP A CONFUSED PRODUCER PLEASE!!!


4 the KEYZ

Do U Want Synthesis.........Moog Voyager, Access ????

Do U Want A Rompler(Intern Sample Based sound)Fantom, Motif, Triton????


As For The MPC4000 ..............It Has The AKAI (Z) Engine

the MPC2000/2000xl ..............Basically AKAI (S) Engine



From http://www.zzounds.com/item--AKAMPC4000PLUS


The MPC4000 utilizes Akai's new Z-96 LSI sampling engine, combined with a high-performance Intel (tm) CPU, to provide ultra-fast processing along with 24-bit audio resolution w/sample rates up to 96kHz. Up to 6 controllers can be assigned to control a wide variety of parameters. Its USB interface and ak.Sys Network and Control Software enhances the hinged 6 in. LCD and Q-Link interface. The MPC4000 features 64-note polyphony (32-note @ 96 kHz), 272MB of on-board memory - expandable up to 512MB using (cheap!) PC100 or PC133 SDRAM. A built-in 60 GB EIDE hard drive is included for storage, and a separate drive bay is provided to accommodate Zip or CD-R. The MPC4000's IntelliSample (tm) capability automates sampling, naming, program creation and sample assignment automatically. New sound munching possibilities are available with Quick FX (tm) resampling using powerful presets from the included EB4JS 4-channel 24-bit/96kHz effects processor. Connections include XLRs inputs with high-quality pre-amps and balanced outputs providing full 24/96 conversion, a dedicated turntable input, 2 MIDI inputs, 4 MIDI outputs, SMPTE I/O, and a high-density SCSI port. The most powerful MPC ever takes its rightful position as a legendary music production tool.

If I Can B OF MO' Help Holla !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What U Will Need Firstly Depends On UR Style of Sound and or Production

So You Need 2 Decide on that first.....................

By renegadebliss Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:42 pm
binger0 wrote:the mpc has a sampler (the s2000's engine actually) but the s5000 has alot more features, such as filters and editing. u dont need one but it makes life alot easier and gives u alot more options when sampling.



Well, the MPC 2000XL does not do keygroups


The S-2000 does keygroups.


They are not the same. The MPC 2000XL's sampler and functionality is NOT the same
as theS-2000.

Just because they both have 2000 in them doesn't mean they are the same.


The MPC 4000's sampler IS the same as the Z series.
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By binger0 Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:15 pm
:roll: they are not the exact same engine but that is what akai based the engine on. it offers a few features that the mpc doesnt have, i owned both homes. But that is where akai based the mpcs engine off of.