For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.
By Benyamin Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:33 am
1. A good cassette deck is probably the best outboard and tracking tool you can own. Most of you have or can borrow it. Doesn't have to be too fancy.

2. This simplifies life quite a bit, as you can stop worrying so much about integrating reason into your whole mad scientist software dream and focus on making music that means something.

3. Learn to use a cassette deck, and learn to recognize gear hype for gear hype. Trying to improve? What's smarter, spending money or using what you have?

4. If you do not frighten yourself during your work, at least sometimes, then you aren't improving and you should quit and go market soft drinks somewhere.

5. Your studio environment reflects your life. If you are not interested in the world around you, and think that the true dream lies in locking yourself away in a castle filled with records, MPC's, and computers, then your music will be boring and you should quit and go market soft drinks somewhere.

I used the mpc for many years and think it's fine. And this is a post about studio environments.
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By scizz Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:43 am
Benyamin wrote:1. A good cassette deck is probably the best outboard and tracking tool you can own. Most of you have or can borrow it. Doesn't have to be too fancy.

2. This simplifies life quite a bit, as you can stop worrying so much about integrating reason into your whole mad scientist software dream and focus on making music that means something.

3. Learn to use a cassette deck, and learn to recognize gear hype for gear hype. Trying to improve? What's smarter, spending money or using what you have?

4. If you do not frighten yourself during your work, at least sometimes, then you aren't improving and you should quit and go market soft drinks somewhere.

5. Your studio environment reflects your life. If you are not interested in the world around you, and think that the true dream lies in locking yourself away in a castle filled with records, MPC's, and computers, then your music will be boring and you should quit and go market soft drinks somewhere.

I used the mpc for many years and think it's fine. And this is a post about studio environments.

HAHA, cool post :P
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By dubmunkey Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:09 am
like it centurion.....

Greg

By dennison Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:19 am
True.

A couple years back I realized that I was thinking about gear more then music. "Am I a gear-head or a musician?" So I stopped being a gearhead, I evaluated my setup, and made cuts to any gear that wasn't necessary. I looked back on this whole musical journey of mine I noticed that I was the most happy with my music when I had a 4 track a mic, a guitar, and a drum machine. Then it wasn't about equipment or saving for the next thing, no it was about writing songs and practicing until I knew them perfectly, not editing a wave form to get the results I want.

Seriously try to take a break from looking at gear on the net a dreaming because it leads down a road of less musical fruit.
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By scizz Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:05 pm
dennison wrote:True.

A couple years back I realized that I was thinking about gear more then music. "Am I a gear-head or a musician?" So I stopped being a gearhead, I evaluated my setup, and made cuts to any gear that wasn't necessary. I looked back on this whole musical journey of mine I noticed that I was the most happy with my music when I had a 4 track a mic, a guitar, and a drum machine. Then it wasn't about equipment or saving for the next thing, no it was about writing songs and practicing until I knew them perfectly, not editing a wave form to get the results I want.

Seriously try to take a break from looking at gear on the net a dreaming because it leads down a road of less musical fruit.

wisdom

hey dennison is that you in the avatar? do you play the upright?
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By Living Bate Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:17 pm
I agree....

I most enjoyed making beats when I was just using Fruityloops and Acid which I downloaded free off the net......I used to dream about owning an MPC.... then when I got one I started to look at all the extras I needed such as the 8 outs, the EB-16, I wanted a hard disk recorder etc....and I got so frustrated that my musical ideas just halted and my creativity dropped to levels below recognition. I was slumping in the world of beat making.....so I took a month or two out and got pissed off.

Now I am getting back to the mind frame of just making music with creativity and enjoyment, because expensive gear does not replace a good musical attitude.

Bless,

LB
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By dubmunkey Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:43 pm
more good points from bate....there are some cats on this forum i think going through the exact same thing at the mo...always talking gear and not music...

greg
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By scizz Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:49 pm
dubmunkey wrote:more good points from bate....there are some cats on this forum i think going through the exact same thing at the mo...always talking gear and not music...

greg

where would you talk about music? in which forum? off topic? :roll:
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By scizz Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:54 pm
hey! i just noticed there's a "your music" forum here! :?
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By dubmunkey Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:58 pm
where would you talk about music? in which forum? off topic? Rolling Eyes
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eh? in a thread you started about music??!? not really sure what you mean....


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hey! i just noticed there's a "your music" forum here! Confused

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oh right, well welcome to the forums...

greg

By elmacaco Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:37 pm
excellent post. Yeah Dennisson, I hear you on the gear head vs. music head thing. I'm kinda both but the thing is to love and get into the gear you have and not the gear you want ;)

Once gearlust ends you're better able to redirect that gear lust into studio satisfaction and focus more on your music.

Oh yeah, and by cassette deck do you mean a 4 track? or just regular? I gave my pops my old 4 track and when I was showin him how to use it I was reminded of how incredible it is to write songs with, so quick and the sound is great.

Yo ben, can you get me a job marketing softdrinks? I would like a bigger place ;)

By BassLINE Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:53 pm
Living Bate wrote:I agree....

I most enjoyed making beats when I was just using Fruityloops and Acid which I downloaded free off the net......I used to dream about owning an MPC.... then when I got one I started to look at all the extras I needed such as the 8 outs, the EB-16, I wanted a hard disk recorder etc....and I got so frustrated that my musical ideas just halted and my creativity dropped to levels below recognition. I was slumping in the world of beat making.....so I took a month or two out and got pissed off.

Now I am getting back to the mind frame of just making music with creativity and enjoyment, because expensive gear does not replace a good musical attitude.

Bless,

LB


Truer words were never spoken. I feel the same way.

Great thread.
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By drox Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:19 pm
Benyamin wrote:1. A good cassette deck is probably the best outboard and tracking tool you can own. Most of you have or can borrow it. Doesn't have to be too fancy.

2. This simplifies life quite a bit, as you can stop worrying so much about integrating reason into your whole mad scientist software dream and focus on making music that means something.

3. Learn to use a cassette deck, and learn to recognize gear hype for gear hype. Trying to improve? What's smarter, spending money or using what you have?

4. If you do not frighten yourself during your work, at least sometimes, then you aren't improving and you should quit and go market soft drinks somewhere.

5. Your studio environment reflects your life. If you are not interested in the world around you, and think that the true dream lies in locking yourself away in a castle filled with records, MPC's, and computers, then your music will be boring and you should quit and go market soft drinks somewhere.

I used the mpc for many years and think it's fine. And this is a post about studio environments.


^ this is the best first post ive seen on thses forums :) good stuff ben
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By Smoove03 Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:34 pm
i gotta agree wit yall on this one...

i've heard it plenty of times!

"it aint what you got..."

- you know the rest....

By drumtrack Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:56 pm
rubbish
a guitarist is all over new and old guitars.. A synth player (keyboardist as you might call them) is obsessed by new and old synths. A writer is obsessed by books. A filmdirector is obsessed by films and books (they should be ;) ) a car pilot is obsessed by cars and wants plenty of them..
So we, producers, are obsessed with all sorts of gear. You may call us gearsluts. I dont care. But thats just human nature. Buying gear is certainly not a bad thing. Buying gear wich u very often use is kinda dumb. If you have the money, spend my friends! .... Otherwise the money will go to car gaz, the ladies, drinks & smokes, ...


tho if you suck at making music or if you do just some lame boring hiphop beats, then ok... you should invest in something else or keep ur cash, whatever..
But if you re good at it and you are enjoying yourself than there is nothing wrong with buying lots of gear