ELEMENTS OF A SONG

WHAT MAKES A SONG COMPLETE AS FAR AS THE DRUMS BAR?


HOW MANY BARS FOR THE INTRO?
HOW MANY BARS FOR THE HOOK?
HOW MANY BARS FOR THE VOCALS?

HOW MANY BARS IS TOO MUCH?

There are no rules!
(ok there are some, but u have to brake them!!!)

here U can learn what u have to breake

http://www.songu.com/Courses/SampleLess ... esson2.asp
http://www.songu.com/Courses/SampleLess ... /start.asp

yeah but what is the standard? like dre he always uses a 4 bar loop or 8 bar loop with his hooks and 16 bars for the vocals

you can loop stuff the way you feel or want it to sound but the standard song format go like this....8 bar intro 16 bar or more verse 8 bar hooks 8 bar outros. just remember when your artist is rapping his verse or write that he must end his verse on a even 4 bar number after 16 bars for ex. 16 20 24 and so on this way your beat dont cut off in the middle of a melodie or he has extra space at the end of his verse because he didnt write long enuff.

thanks man, but HERE IS A MORE CHALLENGING QUESTION, what if you have a loop that takes 5 bars of a drum loop, i can use timestrecth but i dont want that plus i'm not good at it ..... so do you just go on an adjust and add a bar to every section?

keepintouch2004 wrote:thanks man, but HERE IS A MORE CHALLENGING QUESTION, what if you have a loop that takes 5 bars of a drum loop, i can use timestrecth but i dont want that plus i'm not good at it ..... so do you just go on an adjust and add a bar to every section?

for the answer to this peep "hovi baby" by Jay-Z, Just Blaze is a genius

i'm not gonna purchase a whole cd of an artist who i'm not the biggest fan, even tho Just Blaze is hot, can u just explain it to me please!

You really would have to hear it, borrow the CD from a friend or COP the MP3.......

bbouit THANKS 4 NUTHIN
I DONT NEED COMMENTATORS, I NEED HELP
see if you could maybe send me the song via e-mail!

dude chill out he was just trying to help you, you think you gonna get that simple question answered with that attitude, just practice dog don't be scared of your mp

Easy, for me, I don't stick to any rules. In the event that my artist comes with a 17 or 15 bar verse I just come up with a creative fill to get that extra bar in there. Be creative and break free of the box that people place you in or just avoid the box altogether, know what I'm sayin? Now go make some hot shit till your fingers fall off.....

Lampdog wrote:Easy, for me, I don't stick to any rules. In the event that my artist comes with a 17 or 15 bar verse I just come up with a creative fill to get that extra bar in there. Be creative and break free of the box that people place you in or just avoid the box altogether, know what I'm sayin? Now go make some hot **** till your fingers fall off.....

YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE DOING "DIRTY SOUTH" TYPE OF MUSIC, YOU CAN BREAK THE RULES A MILLION TIMES AND IT STILL SOUND GOOD, LIKE YOU KNOW HOW SOUTHERN PRODUCERS GOT LIKE A MILLION SNARES, A MILLION KICKS AND A MILLION HH ALL IN ONE SONG, BUT LIKE MY BEATS ARE MORE EASTCOAST AND WESTCOAST....SO I LIKE TO GO WIT DA STANDARD, BUT YOU DONT ALWAYS HAVE TO THO'................AS FAR AS THE BARS COUNT I LIKE MINE SIMPLE, I LIKE THE HOOK TO BE 8 BARS LOOPED TWICE TO GET 16.