Expanding MPC midi inputs?

How would i go about doing this?

Basically i've got two midi ins, one is hookep up to my keyboard, the other to my interface.

I need another midi in so that i can start using sysex midi dump in my sequences to call up the correct patches from my Proteus when i load a track.

Is it as simple as plugging in some kind of midi interface or what?

Cheers

Midi patchbay.

You need to use a MIDI out to send data to your proteus. If you've selected the correct patch # on your MPC, when you bring up the sequence, your proteus should automatically change to the correct voice. You will need to make sure the proteus is set up to recieve program change messages...

I've got setup but i was reading an FAQ on here about midi dump and it mentions that a midi out from the Proteus to Midi in on the MPC was required dump the sysex data into the MPC sequencer. Is this the case with the 2500 too? i read it in the 2000 forum

Spirez wrote:I've got setup but i was reading an FAQ on here about midi dump and it mentions that a midi out from the Proteus to Midi in on the MPC was required dump the sysex data into the MPC sequencer. Is this the case with the 2500 too? i read it in the 2000 forum

Correct, but just to bring up a voice, you don't need it. If you want to store and load SYSEX data to and from the MPC, you need a two way connection....MIDI patchbays come in alot of different flavors - some very inexpensive....

so will the mpc automatically read the patchbay and give me more midi options? example: 1a-16a, 1b-16b,1c-16c, etc?

skmagnum wrote:so will the mpc automatically read the patchbay and give me more midi options? example: 1a-16a, 1b-16b,1c-16c, etc?

No, there´s a difference between the concept of a patchbay and a input/output expansion sort of thingie.
A patchbay is a device that serves as a crossroad for several existing in´s and out´s where you easily and flexible can route the signal the desired path by patching/wiring in´s to out´s or out´s to in´s in the manner you like.
It will not give you more MIDI ports or channels to work with in and out of your MPC, it´ll just make it easier to interconnect between external devices.

Cool, sounds like a patchbay is what i want then. I checked at Digital Village in the UK but it seems they've only got MOTU midi patchbays that are over £200, i'm not looking to spend that!

To be honest, it may be a waste of money at the moment. It wouldnt be too much hassle to swap the leads when loading up programs then changing them back when syncing to the PC

Spirez wrote:How would i go about doing this?

Basically i've got two midi ins, one is hookep up to my keyboard, the other to my interface.

I need another midi in so that i can start using sysex midi dump in my sequences to call up the correct patches from my Proteus when i load a track.

Is it as simple as plugging in some kind of midi interface or what?

Cheers

i was just reading this thread and realised that the answers to spirez original question were partly inconclusive. so for the benefit of anyone who didnt quite understand the outcome heres my take on it.

if you want the correct patches to load on your synth automatically when you play a sequence there are two ways you can achieve this.

1. you can transfer the patch data from your synth to the mpc midi track using a sysex (system exclusive) dump and embed it within the track. getting involved in sysex dumps can be a bit too technical for some folk and its not done the same for all synths.

2. much quicker and easier to implement are program changes. use program changes within your mpc tracks to send a program (patch) change message to your synth. the synth must be set to receive these messages. program changes can be placed anywhere in your tracks, not just at the beginning. useful for changing a sound for the chorus, for example.

out of coincidence, i happen to have a PK6 (proteus keys) which is basically a proteus 2000 with keys. so my setup is the same as spirez. so any proteus users should find it easy to use program change messages. on the proteus a program change message consists of the MSB, LSB and patch number. this information is displayed when you press audition. read up on mpc program changes for what to do with these numbers.

clint that's exactly what i needed, cheers.

This does sound a lot easier than sysex midi dump, appreciate the tip!

I'll read up through the manual and if i get suck i'll give you a shout!

Spirez wrote:clint that's exactly what i needed, cheers.

This does sound a lot easier than sysex midi dump, appreciate the tip!

I'll read up through the manual and if i get suck i'll give you a shout!

page 28/29 of the reference manual.......