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By dtaa pla muk Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:26 pm
first off, BIG MASSIVE HUGE UPS to Rendr, who brilliantly discovered that you can take the sensors from an AKAI MPD16 and connect them to the AKAI AC1A mpc1000 pad fix PCB. this gave me a crazy idea:

AKAI mpc1000 pad fixes cost in the neighborhood of 200 dollars.
used MPD16s cost something like 50 bucks on ebay.
the sensors are identical - except mpd16 pads are bigger.

once the mpd16 pad sensors are connected to the 1000, you can callibrate them as necessary using the mpc1000's software, making them just as sensitive as all other FSR mpcs.

i called up MPCstuff and asked mike if they had any extra AC1A mpc1000 pad fix PCBs from the initial run. These early PCBs caused an issue where lines would scroll across the screen and the screen's contrast wouldn't get set right each time you booted. he said yeah, he had one and he mailed it to me.

this PCB was essentially missing 2 things - a different resistor and a diode which akai added to the PCB in a later revision that solved the issue. i didn't know the value of the resistor or the diode, so i had to get sneaky.

i then created a fake Gmail account under the name Ross McCormick and emailed Justin Baro with a fake sob story about being a loyal Akai customer for many years, that i owned a 2000 for a long time and that i had an mpc1000 with busted pads. i said that i'd bought nym's pad fix as well as replacement mpc1000 single pads, both of which weren't as good as my 2000. i said that i'd ordered the AKai pad fix but wanted to wait until my single pad replacements had worn out before installing the new ones, just to get my money's worth. i said that when i finally DID replace these pads, i was horrified to see my screen appearing with lines throughout. this left my fake alias in a bind - i couldn't exchange my new pads from the company i ordered em from because they were all out - this is when they were backordered - and that i was screwed. i asked that they provide me with the value of the resistor and diode.

justin sent me an akai engineering pdf detailing this "pad fix fix" which exchanged 1 resistor for another and added a diode. i picked up the diode from radioshack and ordered non-surface mount resistors (the original ones are tiny and flat) from a dude in redwood city. they came yesterday. i soldered em on (haven't soldered on the diode yet) and boom, the lines stopped. the contrast issue is still a problem, but i imagine the diode will take care of that. i'll put up pics later.

i then attached the MPD16 pads and tada - it worked beautifully. i now have full sized mpc pads on my mpc1000.

more on this later. i have to run to work. this is going to be HUGE, really cool project and an ultimate comfort mpc.

cost list so far:

used MPC from ES-K: 300 usd.
100 390kohm resistors: 3 usd
mpd16: 50 usd.
diode: 1 usd
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By konc3pt Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:27 pm
nice nym...so full mpc pads are there, now all 1k needs is tilted screen and 2500 is going outta business :lol:


you got me real inspired about making mpc style pads kit for the MV.
By dtaa pla muk Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:50 pm
jac's right hahahahahah i'm a huge phony
le rat, yeah i'd say so. hm. maybe you can help me think of a better name. maybe i'll just drop the "mpc" name altogether and refer to it as the jjenius child

i'll see what i can do about pics. won't be til sunday at earliest, big weekend in san francisco this weekend. pretty little thing waiting for me up there, as well as mad halloween parties tomorrow

i'll go on a little bit more about what i intend to do. i'll be using db25 cables to "extend" all kinds of bits and pieces from this machine to the main host.

main body of the mpc = the logic board, the outs, and the entire body. the rest = the pads, the screen, the right operations board (mainbuttons/ data wheel/gain knobs), and the leff operations board (the qlink sliders)

the main body will sit on my sublevel daw desk, tucked behind my mixer. the only thing i'll ever access on that is the power button to turn that sucker on and off. i will be soldering a bunch of db25s and vgas (pics next)

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these will connect via cables i get at thrift stores to the peripheral boards (pads/operations boards) which will sit on a pullout drawer in my daw desk. the screen will be the same way - connected via a db25. it will be attachedd to a flexible lamp head which i will position above my dualscreen monitors. this will be like having the mpc be a vst on my monitor, no looking back and forth between MPC screen and DAW monitors. it'll just be floating right above at all times. since i operate the mpc buttons eyes free anyway this is a logical step.

the pads, of course will be the mpd pads left within the mpd16 case, which i will paint to get rid of the akai logo. i may epoxy newspaper onto the frame (fiberglass style) to make it look as rugged as i like things to look. i'll place the AC1A pad fix pcb inside the mpd16 frame. to the left, i'll put the qlink board - but i intend to replace the sliders with lengthier slide potentiometers. maybe. i may just leave em as is.

on the right, i'll have the control buttons/data wheel. this will be pretty much the same thing. i'll dremel the mpc1000 frame so that it won't just be the raw pcb i'm looking at for the qlinks and the right control board. all i'll need is a little epoxy and some spacers to get it right. all said and done, the controls for this mpc will be attached to sanded boards and connected via monitor/printer cables. it will be durable and easy to move, and more over it will be COMFORTABLE to play.

the entire goal of this new daw platform i'm building is to be able to STAND while making music instead of sit. i have a stool nearby so i can sit while mixing, but while actually composing i want to be able to remain standing.

so excited about this.
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By kneebone77 Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:57 pm
This definitely giving me mad ideas and inspiration.
Don't wanna give it away but I will say one word.
Fiberglass...
:wink:

Edit: vacuum forming...
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By kneebone77 Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:51 pm
le rat wrote:haha call it the Nympc :lol:


+1
it's only right...

P.S. do the "current run" of MPC-1000 already come with the AC1A pad fix PCB?
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